Hopkins, Jones & Toney: Let's Rank 'Em Again!

[Bozo_no no]

Exactly. Tarver beat Roy twice, does that make him a better fighter than Roy? Nope. If Tarver's win over Jones means little, then Jones' wins over Toney and Hopkins should mean just as little.

You're a ****ing idiot.

Plain and simple. Everyone knows the only reason you're on this topic is because you're upset Tarver got PUNKED last weekend.

You should really find something to do other than hate. It's boring, and it's the only reason you come here.

[GunStar]

Exactly. Tarver beat Roy twice, does that make him a better fighter than Roy? Nope. If Tarver's win over Jones means little, then Jones' wins over Toney and Hopkins should mean just as little.

Considering that Hopkins was damn green & he was not a star at that time. Toney had to lose almost 20lbs in one day to fight Jones. The 2 biggest wins in Jones career is not as big as we might think.

[THE REAL NINJA]

Exactly. Tarver beat Roy twice, does that make him a better fighter than Roy? Nope. If Tarver's win over Jones means little, then Jones' wins over Toney and Hopkins should mean just as little.

um da hell he beat the people you are comparing him toooo guy A beat guys B and C then guy D beats guy A guy B then beats guy D sooooooo what, that does not now mean that guy B can beat guy A if it all worked that way then we would just give people the title .....why even fight for it Berbick beat Ali sooo what, does that mean Tyson beats Ali now WTF or hell BUSTER beat TYson so Buster would crush Ali in the first round .. the hell

[Smokin']

Considering that Hopkins was damn green & he was not a star at that time. Toney had to lose almost 20lbs in one day to fight Jones. The 2 biggest wins in Jones career is not as big as we might think.

20 lbs in one day... OK, I knew you were an idiot but I didn't think you were THAT big of an idiot. That is not even humanly possible, son.

[K-DOGG]

In light of Bernard's big win on Saturday, let's do this poll, which has already been done twice, one more time.

Once again:
Roy Jones - beat both Toney and Hopkins when neither was at their best, won titles at middleweight and super middleweight, dominated the light heavyweight division for years, beat Ruiz to win a heavyweight title, came back to light heavyweight and eked out a decision vs. Tarver, before being destroyed twice by Tarver and once by Johnson.

Bernard Hopkins - lost to Roy when he was still a green fighter but made a good fight of it, has wins over Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver at the age of 41(!), dominated the middleweight division for a decade, setting a record of defenses, beat Trinidad and De La Hoya and lost two close decisions to Jermain Taylor, who may be the future of the middleweight division should he win on Saturday

James Toney - held titles at middleweight, super middleweight, and cruiserweight, won a heavyweight title in exact same fashion as Roy Jones only to have it stripped for steroid use, dominated Jirov to win a cruiserweight title, has beaten opposition twice as good as Jones at heavyweight, and drew with Rahman.

Perhaps the poll will be done again if Taylor beats Wright and Toney manages to capture a heavyweight title. As it stands now, where do you rank them? Which one has the best resume as of right now? Who will be remembered as the greatest of the three?
- June 14, 2006

Toney was the #1 p4p fighter when Jones schooled him...he was at his best and on top of the mountain 'till Jones knocked him off of it.

[Run]

If they all retired today, Roy is the greatest of the three.



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[GasPed]

If Hopkins and Toney retired today, Hopkins would get my nod. His longevity at middleweight was a great accomplishment, and his domination of Tarver at age 41 makes up for his losses to Taylor. Toney needs to win a HW belt before I'd consider him in the same breath (too many mediocre showings).

If Jones had retired after Ruiz or even after Tarver I, I think he'd have my vote. But every fight since then has peeled another layer off his legacy...

[LOLORSKATES]

Diego I think you were put on this place just o hate Jones. You always say **** like he got destroyed by him he fights nobodies, Glen beat him but Glen also beat Tarver too. You want to say all the good things, but you'll never face the things you don't want to hear. Like you'll say all of your bull****, but when someone else says something and you know they're right you ignore it.

[K-DOGG]

Also...both Hopkins and Jones were green-ish....and Hopkins was older.

[THE REAL NINJA]

Toney was the #1 p4p fighter when Jones schooled him...he was at his best and on top of the mountain 'till Jones knocked him off of it.

that and i think Hop had been pro longer then ROY had at the time of the fight or very close to the same