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So the fee a network has to pay to reair shows they already own is MORE then the money it costs to pay fighters/promoters ect on Sat? Are you ******! These fights despite the shyt ratings are expensive. PBC is covering these costs themselves including the time buy millions they are paying the network. Which is why they have seriously dropped the quality of fights and fighters they are sending to FOX and sending their better fights to Showtime because they are picking up the tab. If you are NBC or FOX why would you pay millions and cover these costs when you get WORST ratings then if you just air repeats of your own shows?
FOX the prior Sat night drew a prime time Network rating of 1.153M viewers simply by airing old episodes of Lethal Weapon and The Resident which air new episodes on Mondays and Tuesdays. Fact PBC is more expensive programming just to finish dead last in ratings performing worst then what the Networks draw with reruns. That's why NBC didn't give PBC a tv deal and PBC knows FOX won't either which is why they are giving them crap fights until their time buy is over.Last edited by bigdunny1; 02-22-2018, 10:10 AM.Comment
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No they aren't that's a lie. It's far cheaper then airing original content. And the card that aired was inexpensive for FOX because it's a time buy PBC is covering all the costs and paid them millions for the air time. So FOX didn't lose money on sat PBC did. The cost to pay for the fighters, promoters, production ect is far more expensive then it costs for a network to reair one of their own shows from early in the week. If this weren't true then NBC who had BETTER ratings with PBC then FOX wouldnt of dropped them just like ESPN, just like SPIKE, ect literally every network that PBC PAID has moved on. None have offered them a TV deal because PBC is a expensive low performing product. They have numerous programming alternatives that draw better ratings at a lower cost one of which is reruns. Only reason PBC is still on FOX is because they started their time buy well after the other networks so FOX still owes PBC a few more dates that they already paid for. Once the time buy is up it will not make any financial sense for FOX to now pay for PBC when it costs more then it does to reair a show from earlier in the week and gets WORSE ratings.Last edited by bigdunny1; 02-22-2018, 03:27 PM.Comment
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Quick question: Using your own graphic, it looks like CBS’ ‘Crimetime Saturday’ shows (whatever the hell that is) drew equal ratings as the NBA game featuring the heavily star studded and defending world champion GS Warriors.
FOX the prior Sat night drew a prime time Network rating of 1.153M viewers simply by airing old episodes of Lethal Weapon and The Resident which air new episodes on Mondays and Tuesdays. Fact PBC is more expensive programming just to finish dead last in ratings performing worst then what the Networks draw with reruns. That's why NBC didn't give PBC a tv deal and PBC knows FOX won't either which is why they are giving them crap fights until their time buy is over.
Considering that (IIRC) ESPN/ABC pays 1.4 Billion per year for the rights to broadcast NBA games, do you think they too should stop ‘wasting money’ on it when they too could probably draw equal ratings with their own re-runs also? I mean, by YOUR OWN logic, that would be the fiscally responsible thing to do, no?
Thank you in advance for your response.Last edited by Sweet Jones; 02-22-2018, 04:21 PM.Comment
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Crimetime Saturday is the official branding for a programming block that started in 2004–05 on the American CBS and Canadian CTV networks between 9 and 11 p.m. ET/PT on Saturday nights. However, the branding is only listed by CBS and industry sources as a placeholder for the time slot, and not as an official on-air branding for the night.
The first two hours feature reruns of CBS's crime drama procedural series, which over the years have included the four series of the CSI franchise, Criminal Minds, NCIS, NCIS: Los Angeles, Cold Case, Flashpoint (before its move to Ion Television), and The Mentalist, with the final hour featuring a new or encore edition of the CBS News newsmagazine program 48 Hours Mystery, which focuses on true crime stories. Several times a year 48 Hours will air two-hour specials or consecutive episodes.
Are you trying to suggest that the NBA on ABC which drew almost 3M rating head to head with the Olympics is a bad rating? And it finishing ahead of CrimeStory which is on CBS not ABC. How does that translate to PBC finished DEAD LAST and worst then what FOX does when they air reruns?
As for why the ABC spent that money I would say it's worth it that rating is a 1 off low water mark, head to head with Olympics and dog days of the NBA season final game before the All Star break. ABC has drawn as high as 4.678M this year alone and they draw 10M in the playoffs and just last years NBA Finals broke records with the highest ratings since 1998 cracking 25M viewers.
Ben Cafardo of ESPN announced Tuesday the 2017 NBA Finals had the highest rating of any since 1998, Michael Jordan's last season with the Chicago Bulls. Game 5 averaged 25 million live viewers, which was the highest rating from a Game 5 since 1998.
If almost 3M viewers is your worst rating which on that chart is listed as AVG that is still more then double PBC and is higher then ANY PBC card ever on FOX that's why you have a bidding war and Networks begging to pay you 1.4Billion and why PBC has to pay networks to air their fights and haven't gotten a single tv deal from any network.Last edited by bigdunny1; 02-23-2018, 09:53 AM.Comment
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To make it crystal clear just how bad these ratings are there has been exactly 65 programs that have aired on Network Prime time in 2018.
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PBC ratings are the 3rd worst of those 65. And the 2 programs that drew fewer ratings were reruns
1.046M - The SP Four - aired 1/13/18
1.061M - The Resident - aired 2/10/18
It is the dead last worst for any first aired program and 3rd worst of any program period including the worst rerun ratings and that's why PBC doesn't have a single Network offering them a TV deal. If FOX can get better ratings with their own reruns at a fraction of the cost why pay for PBC? And these are not one off bad ratings PBC owns 2 of the worst ratings alltime for a Sat Night Primetime sporting event. We have never seen bad ratings like this because nothing that performs this bad continues to air during this time slot the only reason PBC still airs is because the networks didn't pay for it it was a time buy where they were paid millions for the air time and agreed to cover the costs (fighter purses, promotion fees, ect). Once the time buys are over there is zero chance FOX is buying this just like NBC, ESPN, SPIKE ect who didn't offer a TV deal and no longer air PBC.Last edited by bigdunny1; 02-23-2018, 10:00 AM.Comment
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