Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia: I'd Rather Fight Errol Spence Than Lomachenko

[killakali]

Hahahahaha OMG where do you come up with this stuff? Haymon brought Frampton, Degale & Selby to Warren to help beef up Warren as payback for Hearn coming to the US.




So now you're moving the goal posts because you can't name a single guy that had a belt and then chose to leave Haymon. We don't even know if Beterbiev left or not. If he did, it was wise to do so before fighting for the title because a long term extension kicks in on your Haymon contract when you fight for the title.

He could have had Frampton and selby do fight by fight deals like degale. He didn’t set up Selby and Frampton. He wouldn’t have had them sign promotional contracts. DeGale didn’t.

As for Beterbiev he’s gone and your right about winning a title and an extension kicking in but that’s not just Haymon that’s or for the course for any promoter.

[killakali]

Light heavyweight has never been a weight class Haymon controls. It's been an HBO weight class for a long time. SHO tried to steal the division by signing Adonis, but then HBO got Hopkins to jump to maintain their control.

Even though Haymon doesn't have enough talent to control the division, I think he has enough to control that one title and even if Arum secures it, I have a hard time believing he can keep it long as every mandatory for the next several years will be Haymon fighters.

haymon has a lot of guys at 75 but none at elite besides Stevenson and his days are numbered. Gvozdyk and Beterbiev lock that division up for top rank.

They will likely have the WBO and wbc at 140 too. Saucedo will end up beating Flanagan. Hooker is horrible. And ramirez will best Imam most likely.

[Ghost Rider]

Yeah right. Nobody would rather get murked than slapped.

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He could have had Frampton and selby do fight by fight deals like degale. He didn’t set up Selby and Frampton. He wouldn’t have had them sign promotional contracts. DeGale didn’t.

Haymon has always had some fighters sign with promoters and others not sign for various reasons. The problem is that since Haymon doesn't speak, the trolls on this site just fill in the blanks and make up whatever makes Haymon seem the worst. This convo started with you claiming Al lost all of these world champions, only for it to turn out that he last zero. So weird.

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haymon has a lot of guys at 75 but none at elite besides Stevenson and his days are numbered. Gvozdyk and Beterbiev lock that division up for top rank.

If 175 goes from being an HBO weight class to a TR weight class, that benefits Haymon. It wasn't going to be a SHO weight class either way and the more damage done to HBO, the better. Eventually they'll get squeezed so hard from both sides that they'll be in serious trouble.

[killakali]

Haymon has always had some fighters sign with promoters and others not sign for various reasons. The problem is that since Haymon doesn't speak, the trolls on this site just fill in the blanks and make up whatever makes Haymon seem the worst. This convo started with you claiming Al lost all of these world champions, only for it to turn out that he last zero. So weird.

That’s so weird that you would make up another lie. This convo started with me saying shiet fights get shiet ratings.

How is Jose Pedraza doing?

[Ghost Rider]

Mikey clearly puts way too much stock into his win over Broner. He must think because he beat Broner who has hung in there with legit Welterweights that he can hang with them too.

I don't think he understands that as much of a clown as Broner is, he's a clown that's tough as nails and can take big shots. Mikey's lights would be put out by some of the shots Broner has taken.

[killakali]

If 175 goes from being an HBO weight class to a TR weight class, that benefits Haymon. It wasn't going to be a SHO weight class either way and the more damage done to HBO, the better. Eventually they'll get squeezed so hard from both sides that they'll be in serious trouble.

i think they already are. Canelo is holding them afloat. Except when they get anthony Joshua that will be huge and a big blow to showtime. Lots of the pbc heavyweights will make the move over. I see Artie Spiizka already started the process.

Besides Wilder though most of the pbc heavies aren’t that good

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i think they already are. Canelo is holding them afloat. Except when they get anthony Joshua that will be huge and a big blow to showtime. Lots of the pbc heavyweights will make the move over. I see Artie Spiizka already started the process.

PBC is barely invested in heavyweight. It's essentially Wilder and nobody else. Losing Joshua isn't a big blow to Showtime. The US public will take Wilder's side as it's a clear duck and Wilder is far more popular over here.

If there's no AJ vs. Wilder fight, the US public's interest in the weight class will be seriously hurt. HBO can try to prop up a British hero vs. random guys, but if he refuses to fight Wilder and Wilder keeps winning, there is a ceiling on AJ for sure.

But make no mistake, SHO would spend pretty much any amount to lock up AJ. So what we're really talking here is whether Matchroom is going to take over a majority of HBO's dates. That is something SHO can't match. And if that's the case, we'll have to see if a British promoter can turn things around on HBO. I tend to think it'll be a band aid that slows the death, but doesn't prevent it.

Even if it doesn't work, it could save Nelson's job for a couple more years and if that's the case, that's all that really matters.

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That’s so weird that you would make up another lie. This convo started with me saying shiet fights get shiet ratings.

Playing dumb again. Clearly I didn't mean the first convo we've ever had. The convo we were just having. Starts with you lying about guys leaving with belts, then when you're caught in the lie, you just keep moving the goal posts. It's ridiculous. Look, you just did it again right below:

How is Jose Pedraza doing?

See, this is how you work. You're caught in the following blatant lie:

"u also failed to address the talent leaving the pbc and some are taking belts with them."

Turns out nobody took belts with them, so you just keep changing the subject to complete nonsense.