Comments Thread For: Arum Explains Why Lomachenko-Linares Being on HBO is a 'Waste'

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  • HanzGruber
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    #51
    Originally posted by TheUntouchable
    Ah come on, most fights were brutal mismatches. You can't deny that, nobody can.
    Maybe to the extent that there was a clear favorite. But no one was fighting guys out of the top 100 for a title

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    • Bronx2245
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      #52
      Originally posted by jjsmyth87
      Because Pacquiao and Lomachenko are much bigger draws than Mathysse and Linares so its not a fair trade. A fair trade would be Beltran for Mathysse or Jesse Hart for Linares who is still an undercard fighter. That would be a solution but Oscar an Hbo are being unrealistic
      However, Matthysse (WBA) and Linares (WBC/WBA) are the champs, and Pacquiao and Lomachenko are the challengers! Arum didn't even consider Matthysse! Is Mike Alavarado better than Matthysse? Is Beltran better than Linares? I'm not just talking talent, i'm talking financially? Are Alvarado and Beltran better choices than Linares and Matthysse? I like Loma, but I don't see how he gets to the HOF with only TR fights. Same goes for Terence Crawford!

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      • Bronx2245
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        #53
        Originally posted by jjsmyth87
        Most of all of those fights are garbage lol and I thought we were comparing Top Rank on Espn which had its first fight July 2nd 2017. If thats the case we could go back and pull up hundreds if not thousands of Top Rank cards over the years.
        The comparison was 1st six months of TR on ESPN, and 1st six months of PBC! Only Non-PPV fights!

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        • TheUntouchable
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          #54
          Originally posted by BufordTannen
          Maybe to the extent that there was a clear favorite. But no one was fighting guys out of the top 100 for a title
          Promoters don't go by boxrec rating.

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          • Bronx2245
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            #55
            Originally posted by TheUntouchable
            We were talking about GOOD FIGHTS. Not all fights.
            Like you said, "not the best fights in the world..." If you only list good fights, TR would barely have a list! I didn't even list ALL of PBC's fights in the 1st 6 months of 2015!

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            • TheUntouchable
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              #56
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              However, Matthysse (WBA) and Linares (WBC/WBA) are the champs, and Pacquiao and Lomachenko are the challengers! Arum didn't even consider Matthysse! Is Mike Alavarado better than Matthysse? Is Beltran better than Linares? I'm not just talking talent, i'm talking financially? Are Alvarado and Beltran better choices than Linares and Matthysse? I like Loma, but I don't see how he gets to the HOF with only TR fights. Same goes for Terence Crawford!
              Pacquiao-Alvarado and Lomachenko-Beltran are bad fights. Pacquiao is not the main event, still a joke. You can justify Beltran, new weight and title for Lomachenko. Even though Beltran didn't beat Moses in my opinion and Arum bribed the judges.

              Who's saying those fights are good? Nobody. Linares and Matthysse aren't singed with Arum. So it's not completely up to him. Haymon kept and keeps his topfighters away from each other as much as possible. What about that? Are you cool with that because Haymon black doe?
              Last edited by TheUntouchable; 02-19-2018, 09:24 AM.

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              • Dean_Razorback
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                #57
                Lomachenko would look to fight [WBO lightweight champion Ray Beltran]
                shit, didn't see this coming, what a surprise

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                • chepboxingking
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                  #58
                  He's right, but what he's forgetting to say is that even if he wanted Loma to fight on HBO, it can't happen. All of TR fighters have an exclusive contract with ESPN. Don't give arum that much credit.

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
                    Exactly. Bob is trying to control the narrative with his usual tactic of telling half-truths. Amazing that people still buy what he's selling with his long history of dishonesty.
                    He does the same bs evertime and dudes eat it up...like evertime Manny fights he throw names out there just for it to become a bs inhouse fight.

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                    • Bronx2245
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by TheUntouchable
                      Pacquiao-Alvarado and Lomachenko-Beltran are bad fights. Pacquiao is not the main event, still a joke. You can justify Beltran, new weight and title for Lomachenko. Even though Beltran didn't beat Moses in my opinion and Arum bribed the judges.

                      Who's saying those fights are good? Nobody. Linares and Matthysse aren't singed with Arum. So it's not completely up to him. Haymon kept and keeps his topfighters away from each other as much as possible. What about that? Are you cool with that because Haymon black doe?
                      I saw Thurman vs. Guererro, Garcia, and Porter! Just last year, I saw Spence Jr. and Tank Davis travel to the UK and bully those Brits! I saw LSC fight Mares and Frampton. I saw Mares win a bantamweight tournament! I saw Mayweather beat everybody, including Pacquiao, Cotto, and Canelo! I just saw Garcia vs. Broner! I am extremely pleased with the Charlos, and the whole 154 division! I saw GRJ vs. Lomachenko! I can't wait for MARCH 2018! I am very pleased with the PBC, and most of all, I rarely PAY to see these fights! Lastly, RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

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