Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Prez: Arum Must Be Flexible To Make Loma-Linares

[icha]

Does HBO really have rights? I know a spokesperson said that but I've never heard anything about that from any neutral party.

In any case, I'm just saying why does it matter? Why does it matter if HBO is counterprogrammed by Loma-Linares, or Loma-Beltran? Either way, they are counterprogrammed by a high rating show. Either way, Linares can come back to HBO afterwards. The difference would be a few months, but why would HBO care about that? They barely have enough boxing money to pay anyone anyway, and Linares is not one of their featured stars or anything, and there are no good fights to be made with Linares on HBO anyway, seeing as the other three champs are all on different networks, and I don't know of any exciting lightweight contenders on HBO they can put in with Linares.

It seems like HBO is getting out of boxing, so if that's the case, then just get out. Get out da way. It was their lack of boxing budget, and lack of boxing dates, that caused Top Rank to move to ESPN in the first place. But now suddenly HBO wants to compete again? I gave them a pass for their low boxing budget last year because of "the merger," but that excuse has been used for like three years now. It's enough. That was never a good reason anyway. HBO is printing money, so if they care about boxing, they should be matching Showtime's budget at the very least, considering Showtime has less subscribers and lower ratings. Boxing is not a super demanding business for a huge company like HBO to stay competitive in, merger or no merger, but whoever is in charge there now apparently doesn't care about boxing. That being the case, then at least get out the way and don't prevent good fights from happening.

In other words, it sounds like HBO is going to be counterprogrammed on May 12th no matter what, so why ruin a good fight? They don't care about boxing anymore anyway, and their specific subscribers are going to get the same show anyway with the same opportunity to watch it on HBO anyway, so what's the issue? HBO does right by their subscribers by putting on the replay and the GBP show. That's it. GBP does right by its boxer letting Loma-Linares happen. Arum does right by ESPN, Loma, Linares, and the fans by making that fight on ESPN. Everyone wins, everyone does right by everyone else, and the fans get to decide what to watch in which order. Its ridiculous we're even debating this in the DVR age. We're debating a week old boxing match, in the DVR age, on a network that doesn't even seem to care about boxing anymore, except for blocking this good fight featuring a boxer they cared so little about just a year ago that he was fighting in the UK on Showtime. It's a joke. People are acting like this is about HBO letting Canelo fight on ESPN or something. This is Jorge Linares we're talking about. This is how low HBO Boxing has fallen that they are getting their underwear in a bunch over Jorge Linares.

why would hbo let his fighter go to a different network only to counter their own cards?? is that hard to understand?

[Shadoww702]

Exactly my point! He's a piece of shet hypocrite who likes to ramble on about bullshet all the time.
IDK how he has all that time to write 50 page comments on every post he writes. The motherfuccer must not have a job or a life to have all that time to write...

What do you think of this sht card now???

We were lead to believe...

Manny Pac vs. La Máquina Mattysse

Lomachenko vs. Linares



ACTUALLY getting

39 Year Old Manny vs. 37 Year Old Mike Alvarado in Battle of the old farts.

and

Lomachenko vs. some random homeless guy.


THANKS Bob!!!

Can't wait until this senile old bastard kicks the bucket!

[Shadoww702]

why would hbo let his fighter go to a different network only to counter their own cards?? is that hard to understand?

EXACTLY!!! But that's how RTARDED he is.

[Boxing Logic]

Holy sht!!!!

Lomachenko vs. Some Homeless BUM

Pac vs. ALvarado???

Yup this card is hot pile of DOG SHT!!! I wont even waste my time watching this dog sht!

Ill he watching Ali and hopefully Linares on HBO instead. As well as the replaying of Canelo BEATING GGG!!!! That will never get old. And then I can laugh at some more of his fans afterwards.

No no no. Can't let you get away with this. By your own logic that says it doesn't count when inactive boxers lose, GGG cannot lose to Canelo this May, no matter what happens in the ring. GGG wanted to fight 3-4 times per year, but Canelo will only fight him if he doesn't agree to fight anyone before fighting Canelo after being off 8 months this time. It's just like what you said Bob Arum did to Nicholas Walters, and why you don't give Loma credit for beating Walters. Same thing. So, even if GGG loses every round to Canelo and quits, you won't be able to laugh at GGG fans, or say ****, without exposing YOURSELF and your own ******ity!

What are you going to do with your life now ******? All you live for is insult GGG fans, but now because you're so ****** you did this without realizing, you won't be able to insult GGG fans over the Canelo rematch no matter WHAT happens without insulting yourself too. Oh no!

Just another reason why you should try thinking before posting next time. Don't say I didn't try to tell you!

[Randall Cunning]

All bull****. Golden Boy wouldn't even let Spike O'Sullivan fight Jacobs off one of their cards. Cant ****ing stand them.

[Shadoww702]

Not me, dumbass. Mikey Garcia said it himself to Ellie Sechbak.

I mean, wow. You just keep lowering the bar more with every comment. Quit while you're... uhh... ahead...... bro....... ahem....



Rigo was offered the Loma fight while Loma was still at 126. Rigo refused, not Loma. That's the difference and it's been explained many times. Rigo was also offered more money than Loma made to fight GRJ, but still declined, so money is no excuse either. It was enough money for Loma to fight top opposition in only his 3rd pro fight, it should have been enough for Rigo to. It was also over twice as much as Loma made to fight Salido. Loma fought an 11 pound bigger opponent for 250k or less, but Rigo couldn't move up 4 pounds for over 500k. That's not Loma's fault.

As for Marriaga, that was supposed to be Salido, but Salido also declined to fight Loma. Once again, not under Loma's control.

So no, just because you're so ******, you can't understand simple differences from one situation to another, does not make me a hypocrite because I can. If the Loma-Rigo and Loma-Salido situations were the same, but I treated them differently, then I would be a hypocrite, but since they're different situations, having different opinions about them does not make me a hypocrite. Another big difference is that Loma made weight vs Rigo, and also made weight the next day as part of a rehydration clause. Salido on the other hand missed weight the day before the Loma fight by 2 pounds, then rehydrated another 18 or 19 pounds. Loma made weight then rehydrated far less than that.

I have to say, this pattern of you spewing lies, me correcting you, then you refusing to read the corrections, and giving false reasoning to justify you DUCKING the truth, is getting old and boring. You're clearly not motivated by boxing OR logic, but, most likely, by race. Then you try to cover that up by saying I'm the one that's racially focused. If you read my posts, you'd see that my points are focused on facts, logic, and being consistent, not on race. Your posts lack those qualities, so it's understandable all you have left to lean on is race, but that doesn't make it cool, and it definitely doesn't make your posts make sense.

Provide link then?

Good Luck *******-off to Loma beating on some Cab Driver and Manny vs. Mike with a COMBINED age of 76!!!

[Boxing Logic]

why would hbo let his fighter go to a different network only to counter their own cards?? is that hard to understand?

1. Linares is not an HBO fighter. He doesn't have a long-term contract with them. He was on Showtime only a few fights ago.

2. Their card is getting countered anyway. What's the difference if it gets countered by Linares instead of Beltran? You need to answer this question instead of just repeating yourself otherwise you have no argument. Here, let me help you. Are you maybe saying Loma-Linares would do much higher ratings than Loma-Beltran? That would actually constitute an argument, but neither of us have access to any data suggesting this would be the case. As far as I know both Beltran and Linares have done similar ratings on HBO. Now both have belts. In fact Beltran would take more Mexican viewership away from GGG vs the Mexican Canelo than Linares would.

Or, if not ratings, do you have some other reason WHY IT IS MORE HARMFUL TO HBO'S GGG-CANELO REPLAY to have it countered by Loma-Linares than Loma-Beltran? Unless you can actually give a REASON then you're just talking in circles.

[Shadoww702]

No no no. Can't let you get away with this. By your own logic that says it doesn't count when inactive boxers lose, GGG cannot lose to Canelo this May, no matter what happens in the ring. GGG wanted to fight 3-4 times per year, but Canelo will only fight him if he doesn't agree to fight anyone before fighting Canelo after being off 8 months this time. It's just like what you said Bob Arum did to Nicholas Walters, and why you don't give Loma credit for beating Walters. Same thing. So, even if GGG loses every round to Canelo and quits, you won't be able to laugh at GGG fans, or say ****, without exposing YOURSELF and your own ******ity!

What are you going to do with your life now ******? All you live for is insult GGG fans, but now because you're so ****** you did this without realizing, you won't be able to insult GGG fans over the Canelo rematch no matter WHAT happens without insulting yourself too. Oh no!

Just another reason why you should try thinking before posting next time. Don't say I didn't try to tell you!

You MORON Canelo ALWAYS fights TWO MexiCAN Holidays! Good I'm glad you like watching GGG BEAT on BUMS and Cab drivers 3-4 times a year. Notice what happened when he didn't fight BUMS anymore??? He went 12 rounds TWICE!

Only this RTARD messes GGG fighting Tomato CANS!

[Shadoww702]

No no no. Can't let you get away with this. By your own logic that says it doesn't count when inactive boxers lose, GGG cannot lose to Canelo this May, no matter what happens in the ring. GGG wanted to fight 3-4 times per year, but Canelo will only fight him if he doesn't agree to fight anyone before fighting Canelo after being off 8 months this time. It's just like what you said Bob Arum did to Nicholas Walters, and why you don't give Loma credit for beating Walters. Same thing. So, even if GGG loses every round to Canelo and quits, you won't be able to laugh at GGG fans, or say ****, without exposing YOURSELF and your own ******ity!

What are you going to do with your life now ******? All you live for is insult GGG fans, but now because you're so ****** you did this without realizing, you won't be able to insult GGG fans over the Canelo rematch no matter WHAT happens without insulting yourself too. Oh no!

Just another reason why you should try thinking before posting next time. Don't say I didn't try to tell you!

GGG could of fought before Cinco De Mayo. Hell even Saunders called him out! But if GGG loses??? Then he loses that big PAY CHECK from King Canelo.

[Boxing Logic]

Provide link then?

Good Luck *******-off to Loma beating on some Cab Driver and Manny vs. Mike with a COMBINED age of 76!!!

No problem Shadoww702. http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...enko-at-126lbs

There, a reputable outlet reported not only was Rigo offered the fight at 126, but his team agreed to it! They just pulled out later. Loma even offered Rigo a rehydration clause of 134 pounds, only 8 pounds above the featherweight limit. Salido in comparison weighed either 146 or 147 in the ring against Lomachenko, 12 to 13 pounds bigger!

Now will you admit you didn't know everything, for once, admit you were wrong, and stop spewing illogical hatred all the time? It's okay. Sometimes other people pay attention to things you don't. It happens in life. Sometimes you end up being wrong. It happens. What matters is, are you mature enough to change your opinion once you are prevented with new evidence you didn't know existed before hand that disproves it, or are you so immature that you will keep carrying on like you never saw the new evidence, and keep pretending things are the way you thought before just so you can keep feeding your own biases?