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i agreed here.. arum needs to flex on the date and everything be g.Comment
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What is wrong with you? This forum is full of true, honest boxing fans rallying around great matchups, and what's best for the sport, but then here you always are cheering on ducking and mismatches. Wtf is wrong with you??? You'll campaign here for Linares to fight someone easier than Lomachenko on HBO, but then when they make that fight, we'll find you in that thread talking about how it's another mismatch on ****ty HBO and look how ****ty HBO is.
Stop lying to yourself and others so much. Loma-Linares is a good fight. Both of them have already agreed to the money, which means they are both happy with the money. And on ESPN it will get seen by 2 or 3 million people, which is a huge audience for boxing in 2018 and also great for the sport. You want to talk about a win win? That's a win, win, WIN. Everything under that scenario is good for boxing, but here you are ****ting on it. It's almost like your true agenda is not actually being a real boxing fan, but something else instead.... huh.... funny how that works...Comment
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CAN ONE OF THESE APPARENTLY BAD AT THEIR JOBS BOXING WRITERS PLEASE JUST ASK ERIC GOMEZ A SIMPLE QUESTION NEXT TIME: WHY IS HE OKAY WITH HIS HBO REPLAY BEING COUNTERPROGRAMMED BY LOMACHENKO-BELTRAN ON MAY 12TH, BUT NOT WITH IT BEING COUNTERPROGRAMMED BY LOMACHENKO-LINARES ON MAY 12TH?
I mean, either way he is going to get counterprogrammed by a Lomachenko title fight against a Hispanic boxer on ESPN after an NBA Playoffs lead in, which means either way he is going to be counterprogrammed by a boxing show that does two to three times as many viewers as his HBO replay. At least with Lomachenko-Linares, it will be by a show that features one of his boxers, and he will be doing what's in the best interest of his boxer Linares.
So far the way this has been reported, it's like Eric Gomez thinks his options are to either be counterprogrammed by Lomachenko-Linares on May 12th, or to not be counterprogrammed. Can someone please explain to him, he is getting counterprogrammed either way, and the ratings for Lomachenko-Beltran are not going to be that much lower than the ratings for Lomachenko-Linares would be. Beltran is Mexican, and he's entertaining. If Lomachenko isn't already bringing in big ratings by himself, then the Mexican Beltran, the NBA lead in, and this being Lomachenko's first fight at 135, for a title, are going to bring in the rest anyway. It's like none of the reporters, or Eric Gomez himself, or Peter Nelson, understand this.Comment
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Get it through your ******ed,racist dsab head that no matter what gbp agrees to lomaducko will have Arum duck for him, lomaducko is only interested in pos wbo matchups vs outclassed midgets moving up or coming off horrible inactivity & or 1 sided ass beatings. Arum blocked pac vs may for yrs on pacs behalf by making millions of excuses,& im not even a floyd fanboi Just not a dsab pàctard either...
Lomaducko is the biggest hypejob in the history of boxing since ggg started actually fighting good opponents...
Arum will continue to claim loma wants the best his own size but will then act like he was born yesterday level of ****** in order to derail the fight & set him up with an in house wbo cherry..Last edited by kushking; 02-17-2018, 10:21 AM.Comment
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Why didn't Floyd fight Khan after Khan won the poll over Maidana if Khan is such a PPV draw?Just turn the tables around for 1 sec and ask yourself if in Manny's PPV hayday would he EVER allow one of his best fighters to fight on another network on the same day HBO was replaying the Manny PPV? Arum would never allow one of his top guys to go compete with his own phuking show on another network. There were reports long before Linares that Loma was ear marked to fight Beltran next. Arum doing what arum does best put out misinformation or BS poison pill offer to distract you from what was always going to happen.
Do folks remember when fans were upset with Manny/Bradley 3 and and what Arum told the public for why he didn't make Manny/Khan the fight more fans wanted to see?
Khan seemed like a very good selection. He and Pacquiao used to train side by side for several years when the two boxers were under the care of Freddie Roach. Khan left Roach in 2012 and hired trainer Virgil Hunter. Over the years there have been debates over the actual events of the Pacquiao-Khan sparring sessions. Roach claims Pacquiao battered Khan and knocked him out. Khan disputes Roach's recollection of the events, stating that he did so well that Pacquiao's team eventually refused to let them spar.
Arum spoke to HBO, who are handling the pay-per-view, and they felt Khan didn't present a big enough draw for PPV. It probably didn't help that Khan's adviser is Al Haymon, who is enemies with Arum and does no business with HBO.
“What [HBO] said was how Amir Khan didn’t resonate with them at all,” Arum explained to the Las Vegas Review Journal. “Yeah, he would do some pay-per-view business in England, but they didn’t think he was an attraction in the United States.”
Arum says all of the options were presented to Pacquiao and the final ruling came down on Bradley.
"We all gave [Pacquiao] an input," Arum said. "From the cable companies, the satellite providers, MGM, it was about who is the strongest opponent from a marketable standpoint, and we outlined everything for him and we were down to three choices and [Pacquiao] thought Bradley was the one that made the most sense."
Bold face lie saying HBO and the casinos ect didn't think Khan was a big enough name for a PPV! We know this was a lie because just a little over 1 month later HBO and the same casinos green lit Canelo to fight Khan on PPV and it generated MORE money then Manny/Bradley 3. Beltran was ALWAYS the in house fight arum was going to shove down your throats.
Anyway, I agree with you that Arum likes to control his cash cow, Pacquiao, just like Haymon protected his, Floyd, and GBP are protecting theirs, Canelo.
The difference is, Linares is not a huge name. And he's not even principally GBP's boxer. He is more aligned with Mr. Honda it sounds like. And as for Lomachenko, he is a bigger star now, coming off the big Rigo fight and the #NoMasChenko big 2017 as a whole, but he's still not a cash cow like those guys. He's not a cash cow that Arum is protecting. In fact, Arum wants him to BECOME a cash cow, and the only way to make that happen is to do the opposite of protect him. The only way to make that happen is to put him in the ring with top competition fight after fight and have Lomachenko mow through them in such a spectacular way that over time, he gets the reputation of being an all time great, just like happened with Pacquiao after Arum matched him vs Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, etc, and then he can become a cash cow. And then, hopefully, we still get more good matchups, just like how Arum made Pacquiao-Margarito even after Pacquiao had become a superstar. It's not like Arum put Pacquiao in no good matchups once he became a superstar. In fact he put Pacquiao at a big disadvantage just by keeping him at 147 to start with, but they did that to keep building the Floyd fight or whatever. And now who knows why they've kept doing that.
So I mean, I agree Arum probably protected the interests of his own boxer, Bradley in this case, rather than Al Haymon's boxer, Amir Khan, and that Arum lied about it and blamed it on Khan's marketability, but that doesn't have any bearing on this current situation other than telling us that Arum is full of **** sometimes. But the thing is, we also know all these other promoters are full of **** sometimes, too, so we can't generalize. The question that needs answering is which one is being full of **** now, as in this time, and to figure that out, we have to judge the facts of this situation independently from past situations. If all the thinking you're doing about this situation is to think, "Arum has lied in the past, so that means he's to blame now," then you are oversimplifying everything because you have left out an important variable, which is that these other parties involved have also lied in the past.
I mean, just ask yourself, why would Arum not want to make Loma-Linares? Are you saying he doesn't think Loma can beat him? If so then that would go against what many say about this fight. And why would Arum spend weeks negotiating with Mr. Honda to make this fight? Why not just wait to make Loma-Beltran if that's what he wanted to do, instead of creating all this backlash against himself? You have to think things through. GBP on the other hand barely has any top boxers under contract to fill their HBO dates, so I would be much more su****ious of them trying to delay Linares fighting anyone good so that they can keep him on a winning streak and keep using him to get dates on HBO to put on more crappy mismatches like their last card.Comment
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