Comments Thread For: Arum: Golovkin Beat Canelo 8-4 in Rounds, It Wasn't Even Close!

[Shadoww702]

He got caught bribing an IBF official over a rating?

Meh, who cares. Being a rat is when you tell on family or friends that's evolved into anybody talking about anybody. Arum is not a rat for that. Arum has done more good than bad if you look at his resume.

I don't have my scorecard handy but look man, I wanted GGG to lose to Canelo --- check my posts. Truth is, GGG won that fight 8-4. Canelo let too many rounds go and didn't do enough to win. If you think Canelo won or it was close, you need retraining.

I had GGG 7-5 but 3 of those rounds were REALLY close. I felt GGG clearly won 5-6 rounds. And the other 7-8 could of went either way. I felt like most Canelo won majority of the early and late rounds while GGG dominated the middle one. Round 1, 10, 11 could of went with way.

So I should have my eyes checked?? I gave Canelo

1,2,3, 10,12

GGG 4-9 and 11.

11 even you have to admit could of went either way?? At best. a draw. FAIR would be GGG 7-5?

8-4??? Basically says you gave ALL the close rounds to GGG... Which is cool but I think your wrong on 1-2 rounds...

[bigdunny1]

majority saw a close fight regardless of who they think won the fight, a draw in a close fight cant be called a robbery, specifically on a fight where neither fighter won more than 5 clear rounds... give me 7 rounds ggg clearly won and then you can start your crying, if not gtfoh...

Exactly! This is the point I'm trying to get at. The phuking Associated Press scored it a draw. Most had it 7-5 either way or 6-6. That's a close fight. Even the compubox don't support GGG dominating the fight. He landed more jabs but was out landed in all non jabs (power punches) and missed 500 punches. Arum the man who said horn/pac was scored correctly and was just like Ali/frazier but Canelo/GGG wasn't close about a fight with en****** he's been bitterly trashing for a year or years. Yeah no bias at all. SMH

[Verus]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and so is scoring a boxing match.

A professional boxing judge since 1991, Steve Weisfeld has worked ringside for approximately 1,600 fights. This is what he looks at: Clean Punches, Defense, Effective Aggression, Ring Generalship and a 10 Point Must Scoring System.

Using his criteria, and depending on how you weigh each criterion I and can see folks scoring it a draw, 6 rounds to 4 either for GGG or Canelo or 8 to 4 for GGG. After reviewing the fight a second time, I had it 6 to 4 for GGG. Canelo's defense was better than the GGG as was clean punches. GGG was the aggressor, but he was not particularly effective. As for ring generalship, neither Canelo or GGG was demonstrably in charge. I gave GGG credit for being busier.

[rrayvez]

give me 7 rounds where ggg dominated or clearly won, all im asking is 7 clear rounds where there is no doubt ggg won... if you cant then stfu...

so it's not enough that 90 plus percent of all credible people in boxing had ggg winning? You want me to give you a round by round analysis? Gtfoh and accept that most had Canelo losing. Can't stand **** boy fans.

[icha]

Exactly! This is the point I'm trying to get at. The phuking Associated Press scored it a draw. Most had it 7-5 either way or 6-6. That's a close fight. Even the compubox don't support GGG dominating the fight. He landed more jabs but was out landed in all non jabs (power punches) and missed 500 punches. Arum the man who said horn/pac was scored correctly and was just like Ali/frazier but Canelo/GGG wasn't close about a fight with en****** he's been bitterly trashing for a year or years. Yeah no bias at all. SMH

i dont even have a problem with those who think ggg won 8 rounds, as long as they aknowledge that at least 3 out of those 8 rounds were close... too many close rounds in the fight can bring a wide variety of scorecards... most had ggg winning cuz majority favors the boxer going forward and im fine with that... but unbiased fans or media will agree the fight was close...

[icha]

so it's not enough that 90 plus percent of all credible people in boxing had ggg winning? You want me to give you a round by round analysis? Gtfoh and accept that most had Canelo losing. Can't stand **** boy fans.

i already accepted most had canelo losing, but you cant accept that neither fighter dominated or clearly won more than 5 rounds.. again, i have no problem if you give ggg 8 rounds , but if you think ggg clearly won or dominated 7 rounds then ydksab...

[rrayvez]

So let's go by public opinion and outrage to make your first point but ignore that there was more public outrage over the decision in the horn fight? Then claim one is subjective the other isn't? Dude you can't have it both ways. I'll ask you again which was a closer fight GGG/Canelo or Horn/Pac? And which had worse scores? Answer that question honestly without rubbish about other people's opinions. If you can't admit horn/pac was worse you are showing your bias. Just like arum who defended the decision and score cards yet because he has ax to grind against HBO and golden boy that was wasn't close. LMAO

I'm not gonna spend all day getting into a debate over Semantics. There's no real way to determine which had more public outcry. Both pac & ggg deserved the win. If you think there was a bigger public outcry for pac, maybe that's because he had a much bigger fan base than ggg whole horn has no fan base outside of Australia. Ggg on the other hand is less popular than Canelo so all the Canelo groupies argue anything in his favor. These are the same fans who defended him for dropping a belt to avoid his mandatory for almost 2 yrs and the same fans who actually paid to watch him vs 3 terrible ppv opponents.

[rrayvez]

i already accepted most had canelo losing, but you cant accept that neither fighter dominated or clearly won more than 5 rounds.. again, i have no problem if you give ggg 8 rounds , but if you think ggg clearly won or dominated 7 rounds then ydksab...

I never said dominated but I did say he clearly won. You can win clearly without dominating. Since Canelo fans love him so much I'll use him as an example. Canelo dominated Chavez jr but clearly won over cotto. Very different types of fights in terms of competitiveness.

[BigStomps]

so what about all of the other boxers, trainers, media who had ggg winning? If there was an accurate poll, the amount of people actually involved in boxing that had ggg winning is likely over 90%. They all had an agenda? Or maybe, just maybe, Canelo actually deserved to lose that fight. Perhaps it has nothing to do with jealousy and Canelo the God actually deserved to take an L. I know that's alot for you to digest so feel free to take a few days to process it before responding.

What about all the fighters, trainers, media, and fans who had it a draw or Canelo winning?? I told you what I thought after the fight but after watching the fight 7-8 more times I can make a case for either fighter winning so a draw is the best result.
It all comes down to how you score fights and what you look for when scoring fights.
So quit hating on Canelo. You wanna say Triple g won then cool. But it wasn't an easy fight to score and there was no clear winner.

[McNulty]

I gave Canelo

1,2,3, 10,12

I'm no stranger to scoring even rounds. I just rewatched the first three rounds and I gave Canelo 1-2 and GGG the 3rd.

When I watch a match I look at the space inbetween the fighters. Most people look at one fighter or the other as a focal point. The space inbetween allows you to see super fast punches in a more clear fashion.

If you're watching fighter B and fighter A is throwing fast, the milliseconds it takes for you to refocus is enough to lose what happened.