Comments Thread For: Arum: Golovkin Beat Canelo 8-4 in Rounds, It Wasn't Even Close!

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  • Robi13
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    #41
    Originally posted by rrayvez
    just look up press row scores for the fight, see the scores that boxers, trainers and media had and come back and tell me who's the one being a biased fan girl. I'm not a ggg fan, I'm a boxing fan. You are a Canelo fan before a boxing fan.
    I saw the fight and I don’t care what anyone else thinks or says to sway my way of seeing the fight. You don’t counter debate anything I said. Why you deflecting? Wasn’t all I said the truth? Admit it

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    • McNulty
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      #42
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      You worship that Rat Fink??? Lol... The King of **** you bow for
      One thing Arum isn't is a ratfink.

      I had the same score 8-4.

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      • Shadoww702
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        #43
        Originally posted by McNulty
        One thing Arum isn't is a ratfink.

        I had the same score 8-4.
        Google Rat Fink Arum.

        Which rounds you give Canelo???

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        • Mammoth
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          #44
          8-4 or 7-5. It was competitive though.

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          • rrayvez
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            #45
            Originally posted by bigdunny1
            Which fight did the public think was a closer fight canelo/ggg or horn/pac?? We can find 1 card too wide in almost every boxing fight. So take byrd card out the other 2 judges all had it a close fight which most experts thought it was. The AP had the fight a draw you are cherry picking who you consider the true voice on who won first its fans then its writers/boxers but only if they sided with your opinion. You name chavez who flat out hates canelo and is the standard for mexican style boxing yet ignore that he said canelo beat GGG.

            The horn fight wasn't just 1 bad score card you had 3 terrible scores. If you don't think arum has an agenda against HBO, Golden Boy or Canelo I don't know what to tell you. But if we go by the public which fight had worse scrorecards/decision horn/pac or canelo/GGG? Yet arum defended 1 and bashed the other. Talk about the shyt scores in your fights old man.
            here's what you're ignoring 1. Most experts had ggg winning. And it's not even close. 2. It's subjective whether you think canelo vs ggg was closer that pac vs horn. I don't think one was clearly worse than the other. They were both bad decisions and you won't find any proof showing that most thought the pac vs horn fight was a worse decision. 3. You keep saying the ap had the fight a draw. The ap is the best you could find? Yes, a very credible boxing resource. Just ignore ESPNs score, hbos score and all of the other media outlets that had Canelo losing. You're going to have to find alot more than that to make it appear as if the press was truly split on the result of this fight. Because they weren't. It's over 90% for ggg. Just Google press row scores. 4. Of course arum doesn't like golden boy or Canelo but his score were exactly the same as many in the press including hbos Harold Lederman who typically is a Canelo cheerleader. Arum even mentioned in this article that he didn't think corruption was involved and that people see fights differently. Sounds objective to me because I think corruption is involved. Nobody has ever had more terrible scorecards in their favor than Canelo. He's had 5 fights with the most ridiculous cards you can find anywhere.

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            • McNulty
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              #46
              Originally posted by Shadoww702
              Google Rat Fink Arum.

              Which rounds you give Canelo???
              He got caught bribing an IBF official over a rating?

              Meh, who cares. Being a rat is when you tell on family or friends that's evolved into anybody talking about anybody. Arum is not a rat for that. Arum has done more good than bad if you look at his resume.

              I don't have my scorecard handy but look man, I wanted GGG to lose to Canelo --- check my posts. Truth is, GGG won that fight 8-4. Canelo let too many rounds go and didn't do enough to win. If you think Canelo won or it was close, you need retraining.

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              • icha
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                #47
                Originally posted by Vinnykin
                I guess the majority of people are as well.



                70,000 polled, only 3% thought Canelo won unanimous and 8% by split.... so a total of 11% thought Canelo won the fight.

                But I guess the majority are wrong and only your minority opinion counts right? hahahahaha
                majority saw a close fight regardless of who they think won the fight, a draw in a close fight cant be called a robbery, specifically on a fight where neither fighter won more than 5 clear rounds... give me 7 rounds ggg clearly won and then you can start your crying, if not gtfoh...

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                • rrayvez
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Robi13
                  I saw the fight and I don’t care what anyone else thinks or says to sway my way of seeing the fight. You don’t counter debate anything I said. Why you deflecting? Wasn’t all I said the truth? Admit it
                  what truth? Your biased opinion? The only thing I will acknowledge is Canelo displayed better defensive skills and footwork. He did not land the cleaner crisper punches, his flurries were ineffective mostly and clearly just for show, and his stamina wasn't good at all. Canelo was outworked the majority of minutes in each round. You can go that whole fight and find maybe 2 to 3 punches that Canelo landed that seemed to be eye opening shots. Not nearly enough to overcome being outworked and outlanded. Now why don't you stop deflecting my point about how most credible people scored the fight. Yet somehow you believe that your opinion as an admitted big fan of Canelo is more credible and less biased than theirs.

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                  • icha
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by rrayvez
                    here's what you're ignoring 1. Most experts had ggg winning. And it's not even close. 2. It's subjective whether you think canelo vs ggg was closer that pac vs horn. I don't think one was clearly worse than the other. They were both bad decisions and you won't find any proof showing that most thought the pac vs horn fight was a worse decision. 3. You keep saying the ap had the fight a draw. The ap is the best you could find? Yes, a very credible boxing resource. Just ignore ESPNs score, hbos score and all of the other media outlets that had Canelo losing. You're going to have to find alot more than that to make it appear as if the press was truly split on the result of this fight. Because they weren't. It's over 90% for ggg. Just Google press row scores. 4. Of course arum doesn't like golden boy or Canelo but his score were exactly the same as many in the press including hbos Harold Lederman who typically is a Canelo cheerleader. Arum even mentioned in this article that he didn't think corruption was involved and that people see fights differently. Sounds objective to me because I think corruption is involved. Nobody has ever had more terrible scorecards in their favor than Canelo. He's had 5 fights with the most ridiculous cards you can find anywhere.
                    give me 7 rounds where ggg dominated or clearly won, all im asking is 7 clear rounds where there is no doubt ggg won... if you cant then stfu...

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                    • bigdunny1
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by rrayvez
                      here's what you're ignoring 1. Most experts had ggg winning. And it's not even close. 2. It's subjective whether you think canelo vs ggg was closer that pac vs horn. I don't think one was clearly worse than the other.
                      So let's go by public opinion and outrage to make your first point but ignore that there was more public outrage over the decision in the horn fight? Then claim one is subjective the other isn't? Dude you can't have it both ways. I'll ask you again which was a closer fight GGG/Canelo or Horn/Pac? And which had worse scores? Answer that question honestly without rubbish about other people's opinions. If you can't admit horn/pac was worse you are showing your bias. Just like arum who defended the decision and score cards yet because he has ax to grind against HBO and golden boy that was wasn't close. LMAO

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