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Let's just go ahead and say that any fighter who has ever shown an ounce of muscle (no matter if they are considered a gym rat or not) is or has juiced. This is basically what it's become on this site. Not specifically talking about Floyd but threads like this pop up about almost every fighter nowadays. So let's just end it all and say everyone is juicing. God forbid fighters actually live right and take care of themselves, much less train
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[QUOTE=Reloaded;18491128]You're a dreamer if you think the top guys in combat sport aren't enhanced. Especially at 40.The kids doing local shows for peanuts are growth hormoned and roided. You think million dollar industry men leave the physical side to chance. Where were all these guys years ago? They didnt exist.Comment
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Its not so much about looks, more about performance. You can't compete at an elite level clean these days, especially at an advanced age. Things break down in camp. I know a lot of fighters nowhere near world level who are doping. Growth hormone equals that kind of longevity. But I can see why no one wants to believe it. Even actors are enhanced, big business don't leave this stuff to chance.Comment
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As I have said before, secrets are safe while people are still on the payroll, but tend to get "sold" to the highest bidder further down the line.
If you operate in small circles then you have a good chance of retaining your integrity. However, Floyd is very divisive and isn't known for looking after his flunkies.
5-7 years and we will see full disclosure and disgrace. There are no secrets anymore as everyone has a price these days. Check the darkweb and you will find a lot of disclosure that remains restricted (including medical docs).Comment
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I'm not talking about fitness, my mates dad has a similar body to Ingle, is 16 years older and has been battling cancer since being Ingle's age...... I'm sorry, there is no way you will convince me that the only way to achieve a body like that is by using PED's.... I've seen it too many times by people that age who only eat right and train 5-6 times a week.Comment
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that clip of floyd and ellerbe will always be a classic. floyd stuttering cant even explain why he needed the iv and have to get ellerbe to answer for him.Yup here is the face of a man who can't seem to convince himself or the reporters why his piss was black.. He was so dehydrated that he chugged his water smiling while saying to the crowd his ready and feeling great after the weigh in, and yet.. (Now where's those damn IVs!!??)
The face of a guilty man haha!
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OP is talking about Floyd and if you've seen any of his recent performances they haven't been impressive. Nowhere near what he was when he was younger. So if he is or was taking PEDs he was taking the wrong ones cause just looking in shape doesn't help. But as I said we keep seeing threads like this all the time on this site, most of them focus on how a fighter looks. I remember one even questioning how Danny Jacobs was able to put on muscle in a 5 year span
Seems real easy to throw around accusations when fighters train their behind off and others haven't seen the inside of a gym in their lives. Keep in mind there are still supplements out there that fighters can take that are perfectly legal, not everything is bannedComment
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In response to a request for documents, the Nevada State Athletic Commission produced two lab reports earlier this year that listed the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio on tests that it (not USADA) had overseen on Mayweather. In one instance, blood and urine samples were taken from Mayweather on August 18, 2011 (prior to his September 17 fight against Victor Ortiz). In the other instance, blood and urine samples were taken from Mayweather on April 3, 2013 (prior to his May 4 fight against Robert Guerrero). In each instance, Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio was unusually low, which is sometimes a sign that synthetic epitestosterone has been administered to cover up the use of synthetic testosterone.
Also, USADA previously posted on its website the dates on which it took blood and urine samples from Mayweather dating back to his 2010 fight against Shane Mosley. These posts have now been removed.
Other sources have provided the testing dates for Mayweather’s fights against Mosley, Miguel Cotto, and Manny Pacquiao. In the case of Mayweather-Mosley, the final pre-fight blood sample was taken from Mayweather eighteen days before the fight. In the case of Mayweather-Cotto, the final pre-fight blood sample was taken from Mayweather sixteen days before the fight. For Mayweather-Pacquiao, there was an eleven-day gap.
That’s a lot of timeComment
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