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  • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    You see how difficult Arum is to work with and the poison pills he puts in his offers (my fighter called your guy out but we can only offer you a contract on the same day you replay the biggest fight of the year and also have a live show so you have to compete against your own network). And this is for Golden Boy who said they have no problem letting their guy fight on ESPN just pick any of the other dozen dates you have and Arum is not flexiable. No chance Arum let's Loma fight Mikey, loma talking about moving up to 135 you think he's jumping up 2 weight classes to 140 to fight Mikey? And then you have a even tougher network battle Mikey's post fight interview after broner said he is fighting only on Showtime and Arum kept Mikey on the bench for 2 years as a grudge and had to be taken to court to get free of him. You have a much better chance of seeing Loma/Linares then Loma/Mikey.
    Arum is a douche, we all know that. But I was speaking strictly from a competition standpoint. Linares is a good fighter. But we already know what he is. He’s good. He has some skills. He has fast hands. But he also has brittle skin and he’s somewhat chinny. He’s also been beaten by far less than elite competition. Some people believe Lomachencko is the best P4P fighter in the world. Don’t get me wrong. Linares is a good fight. I just don’t think it’s the fight fans should be pushing for.

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    • Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
      Oh but, but, he was suppose to be a uber special master-boxer! greatest Olympian in the history they claimed, so sure they were that Salidoe was getting outclassed due to the great disparity in skill

      -- no way a face first brawler beats Lomochenko doe -- he should of made it look EASY with all this amateur pedigree...but, but, Lomochenko was not ready now?! Salidoe made you all look foolish.

      Gervontey TMT are professionals in this industry, they will handle Tank responsibly and wont make the same dumb mistakes that Toprank have made with Vasyl's career.
      Don't think fighting Salidoe was a mistake, that ended in a weird SD, not like he was overmatched and took a beating that ruined his career. It just give something to eat to his haters and that's all. IT TAKES A REAL MAN to fight Salido in his second pro fight.

      Gervontey handed responsibly because he is matched with domestic level fighters and loses titles on scale.

      Yeah Gervontay is a new face of boxing while LOMOchenko (how is that even funny?) with his 2 gold medal in 2 different divisions and 2 world title in 2 divisions in less than a bum.

      You're a fanboy not a boxing fan.

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      • Originally posted by hitking View Post
        Arum is a douche, we all know that. But I was speaking strictly from a competition standpoint. Linares is a good fighter. But we already know what he is. He’s good. He has some skills. He has fast hands. But he also has brittle skin and he’s somewhat chinny. He’s also been beaten by far less than elite competition. Some people believe Lomachencko is the best P4P fighter in the world. Don’t get me wrong. Linares is a good fight. I just don’t think it’s the fight fans should be pushing for.
        Then who should lomachenko fight? Floyd won't answer the phone for Tank, Berchelt is hiding in mexico, Loma has to move up and Linares is the best fight at 135 doe.

        Linares has gotten better, he is on a solid winning streak. Linares is a bigger guy at this point.


        He seems comfortable at 135, having losses doesn't mean you're a bum.

        At the end of the day, he doesn't have some Ray Leonard record but Linares is a 3 divisions champion, he can sucks at times but can do very well too, I think he's mature by now.

        And it's not like Loma would be a heavy hitter, especially at 135.

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        • Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
          Then who should lomachenko fight? Floyd won't answer the phone for Tank, Berchelt is hiding in mexico, Loma has to move up and Linares is the best fight at 135 doe.

          Linares has gotten better, he is on a solid winning streak. Linares is a bigger guy at this point.


          He seems comfortable at 135, having losses doesn't mean you're a bum.

          At the end of the day, he doesn't have some Ray Leonard record but Linares is a 3 divisions champion, he can sucks at times but can do very well too, I think he's mature by now.

          And it's not like Loma would be a heavy hitter, especially at 135.
          THEE FIGHT right now for Lomachencko is Mikey. Linares is an acceptable opponent. But Mikey is the only superfight option out there for Lomachencko right now. Unless of course he wants to try his luck against Crawford, which ain’t happening.

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          • Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
            loma seems like another airhead like pacquiao so I cant picture him confronting arum about what he wants. most likely arum comes out and brings up ESPN. killing the fight and then making loma/beltran, a fight nobody cares about. not to say beltran is a bum though.
            yeah man, lomachenko seems like a real air head.... smfh...... what an idiotic comment.... so ******

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            • Duck #lomatruep4pchamp

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              • De la Hoya needs to make a comeback and fight Mayorga...I would definitely watch it on PPV if it had a strong undercard

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                • Originally posted by Golden Boi 360 View Post
                  I think it's pretty obvious Arum wants Loma-Beltran for May 12 and he's not budging on it.
                  Bumachenko Is overrated but he will easily beat Beltran and he would send Linares to the hospital.
                  He needs to fight that quitter Mikey. That is the real fight....

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                  • Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View Post
                    Man I agree with a lot of things you say but how can you not recognize the Wbo?
                    I just never recognized it. Why would I? When I was growing up, there were three titles and everybody already thought three was way too many. When Arum went public about paying all of those bribes to Pepe Cordero to rig the WBA, and then the WBA shunned Pepe afterward, so Pepe started the WBO, why would I ever recognize a FOURTH BELT, let alone a belt specifically created because somebody was caught taking bribes and kicked out of the WBA, forcing them to start their own organization?


                    Some of the best champions in the sport have the Wbo- Parker at heavyweight
                    You think Parker is the best champion at heavyweight? Based on what? He won a vacant title against Andy Ruiz, who wasn't even ranked in the top 10 by the world's leading experts. Now he's fighting a unification fight and his opponent is favored 12 to 1.


                    Kovalev at 175
                    Kovalev is coming off TWO losses and won the vacant title against a guy nobody had ever heard of, who certainly was not ranked in the top 10 by the world's leading experts.


                    Saunders at 160
                    Who considers Saunders the best champion at 160? GGG would be the clear betting favorite if they fought tomorrow.


                    Jeff Horn at 147
                    Who considers Jeff Horn the best champion at 147? Spence and Thurman would both be overwhelming favorites against Horn.


                    Wba is a joke with 2 champions in each division
                    I agree and the WBA should have been instantly de-recognized the second they created the super title. I stopped recognizing the WBA in 2001 for this reason.


                    Ibf has the weakest champions for the most part.
                    Joshua is a 12 to 1 favorite over Parker. Look at the history of the IBF heavyweight title and the history of the WBO heavyweight title and tell me which has been held by the superior fighters.

                    The WBO is barely a world title and in all reality is essentially the Bob Arum/Frank Warren in house title. Nobody in the sport considers the WBO the top title, but Arum & Warren prop up the belt because they can get the WBO to do anything they want and they'd rather have a monopoly on the WBO than have to fight with so many other promoters for control of the more prestigious titles.


                    Sauliman has turned the Wbc into a joke as well, just look at what Stevenson has gotten away with
                    What has Stevenson gotten away with? Kovalev asked to be Stevenson's mandatory. The WBC said yes. The WBC ordered the fight. Then Kovalev ducked the fight he had requested. How is that Stevenson's fault or the WBC's fault?

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                    • Originally posted by lightsout_finit View Post
                      Bumachenko Is overrated but he will easily beat Beltran and he would send Linares to the hospital.
                      He needs to fight that quitter Mikey. That is the real fight....
                      Agreed, Fartachenko is overrated but he beats Bel****** and Linearse.

                      Asschenko needs to step up and face Garcia

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