How would a phone Tommy Hearns do against a guy like Jermell Charlo

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  • john l
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    #51
    Originally posted by larry mustafa
    Hearns ended up at cruiser sooooooooo wasnt he a weight bully?
    That weight bully sh ite is for the birds.If you can make the weight and it don't hurt you then that's your weight.Some guys like Hit Man have the body type to add more weight as he did but if there fightin below their weight it hurts your stamina,chin so guys that put on a lot of weight it will come back and get them at some point.Toney vs Tiberi was a fight where Toney was dead at weight so the sword cuts both ways.

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    • TonyGe
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      #52
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      Tommy would box his ears off..

      Purely technical boxing, hearns is top 5 all time. Nobody ever outboxed hearns.


      Charlo would have a puncher’s chance
      I agree. You had to hurt Hearns if you didn't it's a sure lose. He out boxed Benitez who was a defensive wizard. A lot is made of Tommy's power but he was an elite boxer. Just a fantastic fighter..

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        #53
        What the **** does a phone have to do with this fight?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Sheldon312
          I'm sure the majority of people would pick Tommy by Ko, but Jermell Charlo is a special fighter with rare talent. Based off the eye test he might be the most talented natural Super Welterweight of all time. This would be an instant classic. Right now I would favor Hearns but in the future I would favor Charlo.
          Oh great here we go again. You ***ing youngsters have no clue about boxing or it’s history and past atg fighters.

          Tell me what fight was he in where he passed the “eye test” for you. SMDH

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            The hard part about judging Tommy in mythical fights above 147 is his chin. He is a FAR superior fighter to Charlo IMO but if Charlo lands on Tommy's chin its very likely Tommy doesn't recover.

            I will pick Tommy by KO because I respect his talent and skill over someone relatively untestedlike Charlo.
            Relatively untested? You need to change that to absolutely not tested. I mean the mfer hasn’t fought anyone.
            Last edited by True-Boxing-Fan; 02-14-2018, 07:07 PM.

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            • sunny31
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              #56
              Originally posted by larry mustafa
              He was draining himself..look how quick he jumped in weight

              turned pro in 77 and by 82 he moved up. and by 87 he was as high as 175.this isnt rocket science he was huge!!!
              Stop this weight bullying ****. If you make the weight, you made it period. If you make it too tight it will have an adverse effect on your performance.

              Plus you're twisting information and making it seem like something it isn't. In 1986 he still came back and won the 154lb belt after losing to Hagler. That is 9 years after turning pro and he could still perform 7 pounds north of where he started his career. Yes in 87 he fought Dennis Andries for the light-heavy belt, but in no way was Hearns a 175lber. He just knew it was a guy he could pick off for another belt in another weight class, because he was that damn talented!

              The fact that he moved back down to middlweight in the same year and won another belt tells you where he was size wise. He didn't fight at 175lbs again until 91, 14 years after turning pro.

              Moving up 28lbs in 14 years is remarkable, but not anything we haven't seen from special fighters before and after.

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              • Tony Trick-Pony
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                #57
                I think it could be very interesting. I just wonder if Charlo might freeze up a bit in there with Hearns and be neutralized into a cautious fight while Tommy piles up the rounds.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by sunny31
                  Stop this weight bullying ****. If you make the weight, you made it period. If you make it too tight it will have an adverse effect on your performance.

                  Plus you're twisting information and making it seem like something it isn't. In 1986 he still came back and won the 154lb belt after losing to Hagler. That is 9 years after turning pro and he could still perform 7 pounds north of where he started his career. Yes in 87 he fought Dennis Andries for the light-heavy belt, but in no way was Hearns a 175lber. He just knew it was a guy he could pick off for another belt in another weight class, because he was that damn talented!

                  The fact that he moved back down to middlweight in the same year and won another belt tells you where he was size wise. He didn't fight at 175lbs again until 91, 14 years after turning pro.

                  Moving up 28lbs in 14 years is remarkable, but not anything we haven't seen from special fighters before and after.
                  Nice points also some guys have the build to put on more weight and some don't.It don't mean one is better then other on that alone.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                    Can't judge Hearns over his KO loses. He had real skills like a really educated jab and one of the best right hands in the history of the sport. His body punching was not bad either.

                    He had all that along with boxing skills and size.
                    An educated jab? The dude had, and this is universally known by all real boxing historians, one of if not the best jab of all time. Plus his plain boxing skill ranks as one of the best of all time too. Add all that together with his nuclear right hand and you get what Hearns was. A top 10 fighter of all time.

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                    • john l
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
                      I think it could be very interesting. I just wonder if Charlo might freeze up a bit in there with Hearns and be neutralized into a cautious fight while Tommy piles up the rounds.
                      Tommy ALL WRONG for Charlo.He could not outbox him and he is not a hunter type inside fighter so he would be ***ed.And I really like Charlo I think he could BECOME an ATG but that time has not come yet.

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