How would a phone Tommy Hearns do against a guy like Jermell Charlo

[sugar ray lenrd]

Why do you boys always make these premature ejaculation threads? Relative to Hearns, Charlo hasn't been in with anybody. How many 154lbers have you actually studied? To call him the maybe the most naturally gifted fighter at that weight is debatable to say the least, there have been an awful lot of good fighters who have done great things at that weight.

You have to see him in with elite fighters, multiple elite fighters and only then can you do a proper "eye test". I would rather discuss who he is fighting next, and what potential great match ups he could have with today's fighters to prove himself..

Thank you! Your post is right on point. i WILL SAY THAT AUSTIN TROUT WAS LANDING MANY CLEAN SHOTS ON CHARLO, I MEAN IF HE CAN LAND THEM ...UMMM IMAGINE HEARNS WITH HIS POWER... (PLS EXCUSE THE CAPS)

[Madison Boxing]

Both are clearly talented fighters with solid futures. I don't see greatness though but I think both can make their mark. I agree on the resumes though. Far more accomplished and talented fighters with far better resumes have been *****ted on by the same folks claiming these guys are the second coming.

Hearns iced a still excellent Duran and outpointed the extremely great Benitez at 154. Conventional wisdom says he's having it his way with either Charlo.

im sick to death of hearing about these two muppets. better than hearns smh, they couldnt carry hearns jockstrap. These kids werent even getting hype until they beat two chinless hypejobs (williams and lubin) actually i say hypejobs, the only ones hyping them were the yanks. Noone was on the bandwagon until then, cause he looked like dog****e against trout. And now jermells sudenly getting hype, it wasnt long ago that everyone forgot about him saying hes the lesser charlo, then he lands a half decent shot on lubins 6 year old girl chin and now hes a certified killer. what happened to the days that a fighter actually had to beat someone good before the proclamations of greatness start?

[MasterPlan]

Hearns would spark both Charlo brothers WTF. They are not special they are huge weight bullies that went life and death to a past his prime trout.

And Hearns not a weight bully?
Homie was 6'1 with a 78 inch reach fighting as a welterweight. Jermell is a 5'11 jr middleweight and will kove up in about a year.

[nacho daddy]

Dial 911 for either of the charcolo bros against Hearns

[_Rexy_]

The hard part about judging Tommy in mythical fights above 147 is his chin. He is a FAR superior fighter to Charlo IMO but if Charlo lands on Tommy's chin its very likely Tommy doesn't recover.

I will pick Tommy by KO because I respect his talent and skill over someone relatively untested like Charlo.

Tommy ended up moving all the way up to Cruiserweight if memory serves me right, and the only times I can think of him being KO;d were from Hagler (Incredible fight and Hagler KO'd everyone) and Barkley. Plus he was KO'd once by Sugar Ray at Welterweight (no shame in that one either, especially in the 14th round)

I think that's all of Tommy's KO losses, actually.

[_Rexy_]

And Hearns not a weight bully?
Homie was 6'1 with a 78 inch reach fighting as a welterweight. Jermell is a 5'11 jr middleweight and will kove up in about a year.

Looks like a legit welterweight to me. It's not like he would put on 20lbs between the weigh in and match like Arturo Gatti did.

[chrisJS]

im sick to death of hearing about these two muppets. better than hearns smh, they couldnt carry hearns jockstrap. These kids werent even getting hype until they beat two chinless hypejobs (williams and lubin) actually i say hypejobs, the only ones hyping them were the yanks. Noone was on the bandwagon until then, cause he looked like dog****e against trout. And now jermells sudenly getting hype, it wasnt long ago that everyone forgot about him saying hes the lesser charlo, then he lands a half decent shot on lubins 6 year old girl chin and now hes a certified killer. what happened to the days that a fighter actually had to beat someone good before the proclamations of greatness start?

I get a lot of what you are saying. There is a ton of hypocrisy. The same folks who are adamant anything out of Europe is a product of nothing but hype but these guys and Spence (who's also largely unproven and not without weaknesses) are the truth and the real deal. Some folks just can't assess qualities and merits without a biased motive or an emotional agenda. I think it goes the other way to a degree but obviously nowhere near as extreme as the pro-US anti-euro agenda that's spewed on here and social media. A lot of them have to try and push and convince people that only black is good and european or white is awful and some people get on board. There isn't an aggressive agenda the other way outside of a few trolls so I think guys like Charlo's, Spence get more of a pass because their moves and careers aren't unfairly or overly scrutinized and measured to double standards. I've always just judged things equally on on their own individual merits and enjoy fighters of all backgrounds.

I do believe they are fine fighters and like I said will be around for a while as major players but neither has even been the top dog in his division yet let alone beat all-time greats in their peaks.

[-GDS-]

The Charlo's are just tall. Not really great fighters. Just bigger than most of their opponents.

[The Big Dunn]

I get a lot of what you are saying. There is a ton of hypocrisy. The same folks who are adamant anything out of Europe is a product of nothing but hype but these guys and Spence (who's also largely unproven and not without weaknesses) are the truth and the real deal. Some folks just can't assess qualities and merits without a biased motive or an emotional agenda. I think it goes the other way to a degree but obviously nowhere near as extreme as the pro-US anti-euro agenda that's spewed on here and social media. A lot of them have to try and push and convince people that only black is good and european or white is awful and some people get on board. There isn't an aggressive agenda the other way outside of a few trolls so I think guys like Charlo's, Spence get more of a pass because their moves and careers aren't unfairly or overly scrutinized and measured to double standards. I've always just judged things equally on on their own individual merits and enjoy fighters of all backgrounds.

I do believe they are fine fighters and like I said will be around for a while as major players but neither has even been the top dog in his division yet let alone beat all-time greats in their peaks.

Somehow in CJS world, on a site that is overwhelmingly non black, he sees more of a "pro-US anti-euro agenda that's spewed on here" than the other way and feels, "A lot of them have to try and push and convince people that only black is good and european or white is awful and some people get on board. There isn't an aggressive agenda the other way..."

How is that possible on NSB with what we know about the demographics of posters?

[Madison Boxing]

I get a lot of what you are saying. There is a ton of hypocrisy. The same folks who are adamant anything out of Europe is a product of nothing but hype but these guys and Spence (who's also largely unproven and not without weaknesses) are the truth and the real deal. Some folks just can't assess qualities and merits without a biased motive or an emotional agenda. I think it goes the other way to a degree but obviously nowhere near as extreme as the pro-US anti-euro agenda that's spewed on here and social media. A lot of them have to try and push and convince people that only black is good and european or white is awful and some people get on board. There isn't an aggressive agenda the other way outside of a few trolls so I think guys like Charlo's, Spence get more of a pass because their moves and careers aren't unfairly or overly scrutinized and measured to double standards. I've always just judged things equally on on their own individual merits and enjoy fighters of all backgrounds.

I do believe they are fine fighters and like I said will be around for a while as major players but neither has even been the top dog in his division yet let alone beat all-time greats in their peaks.

great post, green k sent.