Comments Thread For: Gilberto Ramirez Willing To Face Chris Eubank Jr. in The UK

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  • TheUntouchable
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    #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Easy to say, hard to do. Look at most of Haymon's free agents? They aren't with promoters, they aren't getting the press.

    Sign with a promoter & you are probably getting f#cked. Plenty of big names have lost years of their career & even had millions stolen from their value or outright stolen.

    Idk that its a winnable game for fighters.



    Eubank Jr like Chavez Jr got gifted a name that puts him in a better place then the average guy.

    But hey nothing is cut & dry or 100%, but there is so much bs & corruption in boxing & I think its hard enough to be a elite level boxer let alone needing to worry about the people supposedly looking out for you f#cking you over.

    Idk the right answer, idk that there is a right answer just saying Gilberto isn't likely making his own decisions like I don't think a lot of cats are entirely & I think if the sport was able to operate under a different structure the sport would be better for fans & fighters.

    /rant doe cuz thats not happening anytime soon.
    I absolutely understand why young prospects sing with a promoter, they need the attention and it's harder to get the exposure when you're on your own.

    But once you reach a certain level - and in this case it's world level, Ramirez got a world title belt - I don't eat any more excuses. It's entirely up to him, he doesn't have to be with Arum or anyone else. But I don't even think Arum is the problem.

    Ramirez is the problem, he had the opportunity to fight in the WBSS and turned it down. Kalle Sauerland confirmed that in an interview.

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    • HanzGruber
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
      Ramírez will kill Eubank
      Ramirez only kills bums out of the top 100

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      • Mexican_Puppet
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        #13
        Originally posted by BufordTannen
        Ramirez only kills bums out of the top 100
        Hart and Abraham were in the top-10 of the división. Ignorant.

        And he destroyed Medina , same guy that had a hell of a fight vs that euro bum named DeGale .

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          #14
          Originally posted by TheUntouchable
          I absolutely understand why young prospects sing with a promoter, they need the attention and it's harder to get the exposure when you're on your own.

          But once you reach a certain level - and in this case it's world level, Ramirez got a world title belt - I don't eat any more excuses. It's entirely up to him, he doesn't have to be with Arum or anyone else. But I don't even think Arum is the problem.

          Ramirez is the problem, he had the opportunity to fight in the WBSS and turned it down. Kalle Sauerland confirmed that in an interview.
          Man, you are ****ing ignorant.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
            Hart and Abraham were in the top-10 of the división. Ignorant.

            And he destroyed Medina , same guy that had a hell of a fight vs that euro bum named DeGale .
            Not ignorant. He didn't kill them lol. He had to fight a total bum to finally get a stoppage and fight "Mexican style"

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              #16
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
              Man, you are ****ing ignorant.
              So is Ramirez competing in the WBSS or fighting bums instead?

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                #17
                Originally posted by TheUntouchable
                So is Ramirez competing in the WBSS or fighting bums instead?
                Most of the fighters in the WBSS are bums.

                The best are Ramírez, Benavidez and Eubank.

                Murray? Groves? Pure ****.

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                • Mexican_Puppet
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BufordTannen
                  Not ignorant. He didn't kill them lol. He had to fight a total bum to finally get a stoppage and fight "Mexican style"
                  He fought mexican style vs Hart and won all the rounds vs Abraham.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TheUntouchable
                    Ramirez is the problem, he had the opportunity to fight in the WBSS and turned it down
                    I don't believe it was fully his decision. Ramirez can't fight wherever he wants to fight vs whoever he wants to fight. He needs Arum to sign off on it. I legit don't know if Ramirez wanted in it or not, but I know if I'm Arum & I'm running my business like he runs his business there is 0% chance I'm letting Ramirez fight in a WBSS tournament OR any of my other fighters.

                    And its no surprise to me no Arum fighters were in either of those WBSS tournaments & their won't be any in 2018 either no matter what divisions get chosen cuz Arum would be an idiot to sign away rights to anyone with the way he operates.

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                    • TheUntouchable
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                      Most of the fighters in the WBSS are bums.

                      The best are Ramírez, Benavidez and Eubank.

                      Murray? Groves? Pure ****.
                      Why does Ramirez mention the WBSS and wanting to fight the winner every time someone hands him a microphone? Why did he not join the tournament, easy money if those other guys were bums? Why does he fight even worse fighters for less money?

                      Oh and Murray is not in the WBSS, nor is he a super middleweight. He's going to fight Saunders, at 160.

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