Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather vs. Roy Jones - CompuBox Head To Head Stats

[MikeEhrmantraut]

seeing Roy in his prime almost brings me tears. he was so much better than Floyd, its downright criminal that he was allowed to continue and degrade so rapidly.

[Dosumpthin]

seeing Roy in his prime almost brings me tears. he was so much better than Floyd, its downright criminal that he was allowed to continue and degrade so rapidly.

Only thing illegal were the peds Roy used.

[Bronx2245]

Lomachenko has 16.1% opponents landed, BUT he's much more busier fighter than Mayweather with 59.5 punches thrown per round versus Meaweather's mere 38.6. Being more offensive means giving more opportunities for opponents to land, yet the Matrix keeps record low defensive numbers.
And Loma has only 11 fights. He'll get more experienced and his stats will improve.

http://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenk...s-list--111203

No question, Loma is on the road to the Hall Of Fame! He just needs to keep doing this for at least another 20 fights, and 5 of those need to be on the level of Mayweather vs. Oscar, Mayweather vs. Mosely, Mayweather vs. Cotto, Mayweather vs. Canelo, and Mayweather vs, Pacquiao!

[steven_z]

No question, Loma is on the road to the Hall Of Fame! He just needs to keep doing this for at least another 20 fights, and 5 of those need to be on the level of Mayweather vs. Oscar, Mayweather vs. Mosely, Mayweather vs. Cotto, Mayweather vs. Canelo, and Mayweather vs, Pacquiao!

I rate Loma-Rigo higher than any of those fights (not in terms of money, but in boxing quality), but Loma-Walters, Loma-GRJ and Loma-Martinez somewhere on the same level.

[Bronx2245]

I rate Loma-Rigo higher than any of those fights (not in terms of money, but in boxing quality), but Loma-Walters, Loma-GRJ and Loma-Martinez somewhere on the same level.

Loma vs. Rigo would've been on that level, had it been @ 126! However, the past is the past, and Loma already has a loss in the past! What I was saying is at least 5 of his NEXT 20 fights need to be high level fights. Loma is 29, and is 10-1. By the time Mayweather was 29, he had already become Super Featherweight Champion, Lightweight Champion, Super Lightweight, and Welterweight Champion! By age 29, he had already beat Diego Corrales, Castillo x 2, Gatti and Zab Judah! At 30, Floyd beat Oscar @ 154! That's amazing! I know Loma is a great one, who had a late start, but he needs to maximize his next 5 years! He needs both Linares and Mikey Garcia, and much more, before he's in the realm of Oscar, Mayweather, and Pacquiao!

[steven_z]

Loma is 29, and is 10-1. By the time Mayweather was 29, he had already become Super Featherweight Champion, Lightweight Champion, Super Lightweight, and Welterweight Champion! By age 29, he had already beat Diego Corrales, Castillo x 2, Gatti and Zab Judah!

I see, your argument was about the fights after the age of 30.

Now, if we're comparing Loma and Mayweather up to 29: I think you'd agree that Mayweather had only 1 high quality fight by that age: Corrales and Loma had 3: GRJ, Walters, Rigo (all of whom were undefeated, top rated fighters).
And let's take into account, as you correctly noted, late start of Lomachenko.

[j.razor]

With a win over a prime Hopkins and a prime Toney, Roy could lose 80 times his resume sht all over Floyd padded cherry picking "fighting the guy at the right time" record.

Floyd was always ready. Floyd fought everyone & "fighting the guy at the right time" was when they were at their best, in a winning streak, had a belt or made more $. Don't be jealous your favorite fighter couldn't do it. Floyd is T.B.E.

[b00g13man]

I see, your argument was about the fights after the age of 30.

Now, if we're comparing Loma and Mayweather up to 29: I think you'd agree that Mayweather had only 1 high quality fight by that age: Corrales and Loma had 3: GRJ, Walters, Rigo (all of whom were undefeated, top rated fighters).
And let's take into account, as you correctly noted, late start of Lomachenko.

You've got a brilliant sense of humour. I'll give you that.

[Jedi Vader]

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Define "PRIME"? Were they undefeated? Were they lineal belt holders? Were they relevant? The word prime is purely subjective.

That said here's a hit list of Floyd (you know this already):

1) Corrales
2) Gatti
3) Zab
4) Oscar
5) Cotto
6) Mosley
7) Marquez
8) Pacman
9) Castillo
10) Hatton
11) Canelo

These guys will all be enshrined in Canastota's Boxing Hall of Fame. All the other guys that Floyd beat from 2005 to his last fight were all legit belt holders or the top contenders at their division with the exception of Sharmba Mitchel and Berto.

Roy is probably my favorite boxer and it's not his fault that the LHW division was weak. He cleaned it out completely but to say that Roy's record is better than Floyd is to smoke some very powerful shyt.

I know you will find ways to discredit Floyd's wins but I can do the same about Roy and I will not do that.

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