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  • Luilun
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    #41
    If Roy Jones was a Welter weight he would stop Mayweather . Jones started at 160 and won a heavyweight

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    • future hendrixx
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      #42


      i couldn't find a more fitting meme. not attacking floyd fans. but this meme perfectly illustrates how ALL boxing fans treat compubox.

      if it supports your narrative = compubox is gospel
      if it doesn't support your narrative= compubox is trash.

      its that simple. ALL boxing fans are guilty of it. period.

      compubox is two guys ringside pushing buttons. it was created specifically to enhance the telecast/engage the viewers at home. and its a barometer of activity. it cannot be used to determine winner or who was better. that is a FACT. but like i said if it supports your agenda then you love the numbers.

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      • SteveM
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        #43
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        what about styles ?

        does compubox have an algorithm, or something to balance out styles?
        don't think so but the punch stats allude to styles - low puches against stats point to a defensive fighter

        I used to think it was a great resource, and it does an amazing job of listing all the past and present boxers but the rankings are off

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #44
          Originally posted by j.razor
          Prime or even out of his prime Floyd=T.B.E.

          With a win over a prime Hopkins and a prime Toney, Roy could lose 80 times his resume sht all over Floyd padded cherry picking "fighting the guy at the right time" record.

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          • BillyBoxing
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            #45
            Originally posted by PapaBricks
            If you had a son who was about to become a boxer and you have a choice.
            Have a career JUST like Floyd or a career JUST like Roy.
            Hmm I'd want my child to have a career like Floyd.
            Easy pick every time for me. But that's just my personal opinion.
            What does that mean?

            I would wish to my son a career like Calzaghe ending undefeated instead of a career like DURAN because he fought so many wars with so many greats took beatings multiple times, get KFTO.

            Does that mean Calzaghe is greater than Duran, better P4P?

            Easy pick as you said.

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            • Sickmerch1990
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              #46
              Originally posted by Nomadic
              He fought Jones when he was already on his down slide. Besides BHOP, who has Calzhage fought that was memorable?
              Kessler was 40 and 0 a monster with 2 belts when joe beat him lacey undefeated new tyson ppl were saying when he ruined his career and eubank and jones coming of few good wins when he faced joe calzaghe chased jones for a decade joe is one of the best of all time old school fighter you dont see much of today i rate him above bhop and jones even hagler underated legend

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              • apollocreed
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                #47
                Wasn't Floyd vs Marquez a non title welterweight fight? His first one back after 18 months retired.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Luilun
                  If Roy Jones was a Welter weight he would stop Mayweather . Jones started at 160 and won a heavyweight

                  that is a HUGE call

                  it is a huge call to suggest that Jones would definitely beat Mayweather in a head-to-head contest, if all things were equal

                  Jones had freakish athleticism, great skills, great confidence, great instincts..... but Mayweather had close to perfect textbook technique, unbelievable ringIQ/confidence, and an uncanny ability to adjust to the guy in front of him

                  I definitely agree that it would take someone like Jones to beat Floyd..... but, would he actually beat Floyd, if all things were equal?

                  no idea, that is one for the fantasy match-up board

                  a huge call, like most fantasy match-ups

                  it would most likely be a stinker, with Jones forcing the action, Mayweather fighting defensively, and Floyd winning a razor-close decision by controlling the distance and disrupting Jones' timing..... the reason why, because Mayweather would find it difficult to hurt/deter Roy, but his control of distance and timing would keep him in that fight..... so Roy would push the action especially down the stretch, possibly being overly-aggressive out of frustration and a sense that he needs to do something to stop the fight slipping away..... giving Mayweather opportunities to disrupt/counter his way to a uninspiring win..... beating a guy by limiting/eliminating his success, despite the fact that the guy may have stopped him had he fought a different style..... like he did with Cotto/Maidana/McGregor

                  If Floyd fought Jones like he fought those guys, then Jones wins

                  but I see just as much chance of Floyd stinking out a razor-close decision, than I do Roy catching him with the miraculous punch that nobody else could land.....

                  also, Floyd has a great chin, so not sure that one shot would win the fight for Roy

                  NOT saying that Jones would only have a punchers chance, not at all..... just that it is incredibly difficult to outwork Mayweather over 12 once he has worked you out..... or should I say, once he has worked out what you need to do in order to be successful

                  wouldn't bet a dollar on that fight, even on Mayweather..... who has been close to a "sure-thing" against anybody else he fought, including Pac..... who was supposed to be the man who could outwork Mayweather, with his speed, and with the 1200+ punches he threw against Clottey

                  the point is, even if Mayweather did sneak past Jones, Jones was good enough to trouble other world-class fighters just as much as Mayweather, if not more..... and I know who's fights will get the most youtube hits

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                  • apollocreed
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                    #49
                    Roy was definitely more exciting in his prime, but for me Floyd was a better all round fighter, and that makes him the better fighter. Even in Roy's prime, his defence wasn't great, but he was so fast he could get away with it. I've noticed loads of times when he just goes to the ropes and covers up with a high guard - that's not the defence of the best of all time. I like Roy, but Floyd was a way more intelligent fighter.

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                    • KillaMane26
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                      #50
                      Roy woulda never struggled with anyone in his prime period. While Floyd arguably lost to Jose Luis Castillo

                      Prime Roy barely lost a round against anyone

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