Phsycological effects of a "big loss"......?

[machotime]

I hope Lacy can still be a strong fighter.

Im actually worried about Collazo's loss and Paulies loss.

Collazo did a great job and in my eyes only lost because of the KD.

I'm worried that Collazo is not strong enough mentally to get over his loss, and I'm worried that Paulie took too many shots in the fight with Cotto.

After watching the Cotto fight for the third time, I noticed that Paulie took alot of hard shots, not sure if that was such a good idea. Sometimes fighters are never the same after a fight like that.

[Left2body]

Im actually worried about Collazo's loss and Paulies loss.

Collazo did a great job and in my eyes only lost because of the KD.

I'm worried that Collazo is not strong enough mentally to get over his loss, and I'm worried that Paulie took too many shots in the fight with Cotto.

After watching the Cotto fight for the third time, I noticed that Paulie took alot of hard shots, not sure if that was such a good idea. Sometimes fighters are never the same after a fight like that.

To tell you the truth I'm not to worried about Collazo's loss. He didn't take any real damage that fight and it was close. I think he will gain confidence from that fight and his performance (even in the loss) will propell him to bigger paydays. I think a better question is was Hatton damaged from that fight?

Ricky got hit with some clean shots (although from a light puncher) and was rocked at least once, I suspect more.

Your spot on about Paulie though, and I am interested in watching him fight again. We also have to see what the effects of Cotto hurting his hand has on his future fights. Will his left hand now be prone to breaks? Will Cotto not throw the left as freely as he once did?

I was actually really worried about Cintron after his loss to Margarito. I thought that it could've been slightly premature for him and could've really hurt him although he seems to be back to his old form.

[JunglistSoldja]

What about Prince Naseem?

[JOM'S]

some good does come out after a big loss ....

pac unbeaten in 10 fights GOT KOED on his 11th fight ... won 10 straight and route to a World Title Belt ... GOT KOED on his 3rd defense ... went up int weight won another World Title Belt continued to go higher won a spot at P4P rankins against Marco ... GOT PUNCHED AROUND for 12 ROUNDS during the first Erik fight won a come back fight then avenge his loss to Erik by TKO 10 ...

i think those 3 losses were LESSON the teached Manny to get better & tougher ...

what you think guys?

[machotime]

To tell you the truth I'm not to worried about Collazo's loss. He didn't take any real damage that fight and it was close. I think he will gain confidence from that fight and his performance (even in the loss) will propell him to bigger paydays. I think a better question is was Hatton damaged from that fight?

Ricky got hit with some clean shots (although from a light puncher) and was rocked at least once, I suspect more.

Your spot on about Paulie though, and I am interested in watching him fight again. We also have to see what the effects of Cotto hurting his hand has on his future fights. Will his left hand now be prone to breaks? Will Cotto not throw the left as freely as he once did?

I was actually really worried about Cintron after his loss to Margarito. I thought that it could've been slightly premature for him and could've really hurt him although he seems to be back to his old form.

Well I don't think Collazo took punishment at all actually, but physcologically he feels beat and does not seem very positive.

Im not sure if COtto broke his hand, I know that it is very swollen, but not sure if its broken.

Cintron we will have to see about, although he had a impressive win against Estrada, I need to see some more action from him. He also needs more exprience, he had 3 amatuer fights then went pro and had a title shot at his 25th fight.....Too much too soon.

[machotime]

What about Prince Naseem?

Yes absolutely,

He thought he was invinsible many people agreed, but when he had his big shot, he was outclassed by the more seasoned more skilled more determined fighter. Some fighters have a really hard time dealing with a loss, sometimes so much that they retire....like Hamed

[Left2body]

some good does come out after a big loss ....

pac unbeaten in 10 fights GOT KOED on his 11th fight ... won 10 straight and route to a World Title Belt ... GOT KOED on his 3rd defense ... went up int weight won another World Title Belt continued to go higher won a spot at P4P rankins against Marco ... GOT PUNCHED AROUND for 12 ROUNDS during the first Erik fight won a come back fight then avenge his loss to Erik by TKO 10 ...

i think those 3 losses were LESSON the teached Manny to get better & tougher ...

what you think guys?

It wasn't a psychological thing for Pacman, it was a weight issue for him. If you look at that loss, his next fight was at a higher weight class. He has been able to take a much better punch since going to a more natural weight.

[jason100x]

To tell you the truth I'm not to worried about Collazo's loss. He didn't take any real damage that fight and it was close. I think he will gain confidence from that fight and his performance (even in the loss) will propell him to bigger paydays. I think a better question is was Hatton damaged from that fight?

Ricky got hit with some clean shots (although from a light puncher) and was rocked at least once, I suspect more.

Your spot on about Paulie though, and I am interested in watching him fight again. We also have to see what the effects of Cotto hurting his hand has on his future fights. Will his left hand now be prone to breaks? Will Cotto not throw the left as freely as he once did?

I was actually really worried about Cintron after his loss to Margarito. I thought that it could've been slightly premature for him and could've really hurt him although he seems to be back to his old form.

Yeah, the Collazo loss is not the kind that is going to affect him badly. He came close to winning the fight. I think it can only help his confidence in the future.

[elhijoprodigo]

Yeah, the Collazo loss is not the kind that is going to affect him badly. He came close to winning the fight. I think it can only help his confidence in the future.

Well we all know what those loses meant to Reid, Vargas, YoriBoy Cintron. But what do you guys think about what he first lose did to tito.

[Hous]

Throughout boxing history, many top prospects, and contenders have been put in the ring with very strong opponents. In many cases these prospects or contenders give a hell of an effort and succeed, or give an hell of an effort and fall short of victory (David Reid, Fernando Vargas, Meldrick Taylor, David Kamau, Edwin Rosario, William Joppy, Oba Carr, Mayorga, Mclellan just to name a few). Some suffered permanent damage, while others where just never the same fighters. Examples such as- Taylor's loss to Chavez which had a very strong negative physcological effect on Taylor's future, David Reid's loss to Tito in which he suffered a detached retina and was never the same, Vargas although attempted to perform his style after the Tito fight, was never the same, Gerald Mclellan we all know what happened to him in the Benn fight, Edwin Rosario was never the same fighter after JCC, Joppy never fought the same after Tito. (I also believe Mayorga was never going to be the same after the Tito fight)

The phsycological effect that a "big" loss has on fighters, has historically caused devastating effetcs on fighters. This is usually accompanied by a beating that they recieve or a brave attempt to show the heart and determination that they have. But this bravery, many times to no avail, has proven to sometimes destroy boxers. So what is worth more, standing in the ring with a bigger more powerful, more experienced man, and being damaged possibly permanently... or throwing in the towel when it is appropriate?.....Is respect for one fight worth the devastation of an entire career?

In the end, bravery can win you respect and appreciation, but as a professional, how far does that go?..... Will the latter generations look at the record of a fighter on paper, see a loss and respect it? Or will it just appear as a loss?.... Many have come back from losses, but not many have prevailed after a beating.

People like Gatti will never be remembered as being the GOAT, nor really even close. But boxers like Gatti won't be forgotten either, Gatti makes a ****load of money for every fight he has and he will be remembered for it for a very long time. Thats whats important and thats how far it goes.