PBC deal might take a minute

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So much for that goal of putting boxing on broadcast TV, huh? CBS, NBC, FOX. Whatever happened to that?

They bought time on NBC to prove that boxing on network TV could generate millions of viewers. It did generate millions of viewers. NBC was uninterested in paying for shows, so they shifted their focus to FOX and CBS. Until the UFC TV deal is finalized, FOX isn't going to make a big commitment to boxing.

They way I remember it, Haymon fighters fought on Showtime well before PBC's creation. So essentially you are fellating Al Haymon for giving the stable of boxers he manages a promotional name of "Premier Boxing Champions".

It was easier for non-Haymon fighters to get on Showtime before PBC and Showtime wasn't paying nearly as much money for boxing back then either. Showtime has had to substantially increase their budget, and substantially increase the control they've given to Haymon, in order to remain the primary outlet for his top fighters.

[Sweet Jones]

They censor the **** part of gobbledy****?

That phase (at least in the US) has been used as a slur for the Vietnamese (and Koreans too).

[Mammoth]

That phase (at least in the US) has been used as a slur for the Vietnamese (and Koreans too).

But nobody calls them gobbledy****s

[Pigeons]

It was easier for non-Haymon fighters to get on Showtime before PBC.

Lies.

Showtime did 16 fights in 2014. Haymon controlled at least 1 main event fighter in each of those 16 fights.

Haymon was also the de-facto ruler of GBP while Schaefer was at the company.

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Lies.

Showtime did 16 fights in 2014. Haymon controlled at least 1 main event fighter in each of those 16 fights.

Haymon was also the de-facto ruler of GBP while Schaefer was at the company.

GBP had plenty of non-Haymon fighters on SHO.

Haymon control of SHO from 2014 vs 2018 has clearly increased. It's a virtual monopoly now.

[Pigeons]

GBP had plenty of non-Haymon fighters on SHO.

Haymon control of SHO from 2014 vs 2018 has clearly increased. It's a virtual monopoly now.

Buddy when GBP was putting fights on SHO it was through Haymon's lackey, ****ie Schaefer. GBP of today is not the GBP of 2014.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. had each of his fights promoted by GBP from 2007-2014. Haymon had GBP by the balls back then. You can spin, spin, spin, but you ain't getting anywhere.

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Buddy when GBP was putting fights on SHO it was through Haymon's lackey, ****ie Schaefer. GBP of today is not the GBP of 2014.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. had each of his fights promoted by GBP from 2007-2014. Haymon had GBP by the balls back then. You can spin, spin, spin, but you ain't getting anywhere.

There is a big difference between controlling most of GBP, and therefore most of SHO, and cutting out GBP and controlling all of SHO except for AJ.

Look at the SHO 2014 schedule, look at the SHO 2018 schedule, and tell me honestly that Haymon's control of SHO hasn't increased. You can't.

[Pigeons]

There is a big difference between controlling most of GBP, and therefore most of SHO, and cutting out GBP and controlling all of SHO except for AJ.

Look at the SHO 2014 schedule, look at the SHO 2018 schedule, and tell me honestly that Haymon's control of SHO hasn't increased. You can't.

The only thing that's changed is the acronym is PBC now instead of GBP. All the fighters are the same except Canelo and Hopkins left for HBO.

[NC Uppercut]

A minute, or a few years? C’mon now

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The only thing that's changed is the acronym is PBC now instead of GBP. All the fighters are the same except Canelo and Hopkins left for HBO.

Canelo and Hopkins were eating up a lot of the budget. And the budget in 2014 wasnt anywhere near what it is in 2018.

So Haymon has more control of a budget, and that budget is now much larger. Big difference.