Comments Thread For: Fury Stripped of Ring Belt, Joshua-Parker Rejected To Fight For It

[Jewish-Reptile]

The guy openly vacated all his titles. Not only that he also had his license revoked, in short he wasn’t a boxer for a period. Same happened with Ali when they took his license, he ceased to be lineal until he beat the guy who fought as the no.1 or 2 against the other top two ranked opponent to restablish lineage, that happens wheh when the eventual winner of AJ/Parker vs Povetkin winner faces the winner of Wilder/Ortiz.

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From your link.

"This is a list of lineal boxing world champions. An official list of lineal champions in professional boxing is maintained by the Cyber Boxing Zone (CBZ) website, with input from boxing historian Tracy Callis of the International Boxing Research Organization. These were first published in 1994, and are retrospective to the introduction of the Queensberry Rules in 1885.[1][2] The Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, which promotes the concept of one world champion per weight class,[3][4] hands out the most complete version of the lineal championship and is recognized by CBZ for maintaining the list of genuine lineal world champions.[5]"

Neither Cyber Boxing Zone or TBRB recognises Fury. Thanks for owning yourself.

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/achamp.htm
https://www.tbrb.org/all-rankings/

My point still stands it's among the boxing community(the fans) nobody can say I am right or wrong in my belief. So it's nobody got owned. You can keep the ranking systems that backs your views. And I will kept mine. He's still the champ until he gets beat or will joshua faces deontay

[The D3vil]

Except Joshua and Parker ARE fighting next month . There would be no rational reasoning why the ring belt shouldn't be on the line bc going by their OWN rules .

Joshua and Wilder are going to end up fighting for it regardless wheather its this year or next , whats the use or legitimacy of a belt when the person who they awarded it to Fury hasnt even fought since 2015 or defended a title ONCE to only postpone a champion further ? lol

They deemed Parker not good enough to have their Ring belt on the line but was o.k with Fury not fighting at all for years and him keeping it ? That is the problem and they look like fools .

Doug Fisher explained this already.

They treated Fury's addiction and mental problems as illnesses.

Just like they wouldn't just strip a person who was ill in some other way, unless they didn't think he'd recover, then that's how they treated Fury in this case.

They gave him a chance to fix himself up and "heal" and now that he's supposedly done that and still isn't fighting they've stripped him.

I don't necessarily agree with them, but I understand where they're coming from.

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My point still stands it's among the boxing community(the fans) nobody can say I am right or wrong in my belief.

The lineal title becomes vacant when you retire.

Fury publicly announced his retirement years ago and the lineal title became vacant at the time.

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Ok, I was following RING until the very end:

"We believe on the merits, Deontay Wilder is unanimously the second best fighter in the division."

U WOT MATES???

LOL on what merit? Joshua's STAY-BUSY fight against step-in TAKAM is a better opponent than Wilder has ever faced? BY FAR??

Joshua beat Wladimir (although an aged and past it version that Fury already beat). Still, at that point Wlad was so much better than Wilder or anybody Wilder beat?

Even Parker, with Hughie Fury and that fat Mexican dude Andy what's his name, are MUCH better than Stiverne - Wilder's best win??


Wow what a joke?

I can see waiting until the winners of Ortiz/Wilder and Joshua/Parker fight... BUT THE REASONING is hilarious!

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Joshua's STAY-BUSY fight against step-in TAKAM is a better opponent than Wilder has ever faced? BY FAR??

According to who? Ring had Stiverne ranked far higher when Wilder beat him than they had Takam ranked when Joshua beat him.

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The lineal title becomes vacant when you retire.

Fury publicly announced his retiremtent years ago and the lineal title became vacant at the time.

Since the modern lineal championship is merely a notional title tracked by fans, there is no money or organization to arrange a box-off to fill a vacant title, and there may not be consensus on who the top contenders are – this is true both for boxing and MMA.

People need to accept this honestly , it’s really sad the community doesn’t know the history behind this . Fury got blacked balled into retirement undefeated and came back . So in my book he’s still the champ unless Joshua vs Deontay happens at least for me.

Floyd won the lineal 147 belt from his first fight back from retirement against Hatton even though his last fight was Oscar for the 154 belt, why can’t fury do the same?

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According to who? Ring had Stiverne ranked far higher when Wilder beat him than they had Takam ranked when Joshua beat him.

Hahah well there ya go! "Ring had him rated higher"

Hahahahaha

There's no way Wilder deserves to be ranked higher than Joshua. No way.

But ok, let's say Stiverne was a better win than Takam.

Was he a better win than Klitschko?

And let's look at their entire bodies of work. Joshua has done more than Wilder, as has Parker with Hughie Fury and Andy Ruiz.

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According to who? Ring had Stiverne ranked far higher when Wilder beat him than they had Takam ranked when Joshua beat him.

You do remember who Stiverne beat for the vacant WBC title, right?


Here is the chain of events leading to Wilder getting his "world title:"

Vitali Klitschko beats Arreola's ass in defending his belt.

Vitali retires.

WBC title becomes vacant. Stiverne and Arreola fight for it. Stiverne draws Arreola first time; second time Stiverne beats Arreola.

Wilder beats Stiverne.

I honestly can't even name Wilder's opponents who he has defended against other than Arreola (LOL), and Spizlka.

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Since the modern lineal championship is merely a notional title tracked by fans, there is no money or organization to arrange a box-off to fill a vacant title, and there may not be consensus on who the top contenders are – this is true both for boxing and MMA.

People need to accept this honestly , it’s really sad the community doesn’t know the history behind this . Fury got blacked balled into retirement undefeated and came back . So in my book he’s still the champ unless Joshua vs Deontay happens at least for me.

Floyd won the lineal 147 belt from his first fight back from retirement against Hatton even though his last fight was Oscar for the 154 belt, why can’t fury do the same?

nothing you said changes the fact that the lineal title becomes vacant when you retire.