Comments Thread For: WBC Prez Embraces The Idea of Wilder vs. Povetkin Next

[Sledgeweather17]

I apologize to the forum as I stand corrected. You are right. I was wrong and misinformed. Bermane Stiverne was indeed Wilder's mandatory challenger for his WBC title. Therefore, I retract my earlier posts. Team Wilder paid Stiverne step aside money in order to challenge Ortiz for his title but Luis subsequently failed the drug tests. However "The Real King Kong Luis Ortiz was Anthony Joshua's mandatory challenger for the WBA title though; But Joshua opted to defend his IBF mandatory instead. Therefore, I am requesting that you and the members of the NSB community in general and Boksfan in particular to please accept this retraction.

Apology accepted. However, you made another error so to speak in your apology.

It wasn't neccessarily a matter of choosing to defend the IBF over the WBA on Joshua's part.

The IBF mandatory was due before the WBA mandatory became due. Therefore, if Joshua had chosen to defend the WBA first, he would have risked getting stripped by the IBF, and we all know how strict the IBF is with regards to following it's own rules (unlike the other orgs).

I'm pointing this out because you seem to be trying to imply that Joshua was ducking Ortiz by 'choosing' the IBF over the WBA.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

how do you know? are you beyonce wilder's personal accountant?

Lmao dàmn you got to be one of the dumbest annoying posters on here. You act just like Charlie Zelenoff

[DougalDylan]

"Wilder fights who can when he can."

No he doesn't see the Finkel quote about why he's ducking Vlad because he's a baby heavyweight who has just got the belt.

See all the quotes from him and his team on picking that Polish guy because hes coming back from an injury .

etc etc etc .. always something else

Which wouldn't be so bad but when another heavyweight ducks a unification after getting his belt eg Parker in exactly the way he did he slates them for it (see the tbv interview)... look at that Joseph Parker he's doing a "Deontay Wilder" ., he should be ready to fight not behaving like I did.

My problem is that people just hate Wilder. That's that. Wilder fights who can when he can. And people just hate him for it. Failed drug test and injury aside this would be a whole different conversation cuz he would have that many more fights under his belt.

[DougalDylan]

I suggest you read the Ring magazine article on the "WBC clean boxing program" .. looks like its just a WBC ploy to rip of VADA. looks like the WBC couldn't care less about testing and its just a money making scam.

It really doesn't matter at this point because neither Luis Ortiz or Alexander Povetkin stand a chance against Deontay Wilder given the WBC's stringent clean boxing program in association with VADA and the fact that they won't be juicing.

[RussB23]

If wilder wins. AJ vs Wilder is next hearns been saying that since the very start. After AJ knocks wilder clean out, wilder wont even have a chance to fight povetkin anymore. Wilder is done, both povetkin and AJ beat him with ease.

He just needs to choose the bigger money option to cash out before he gets exposed like michael grant.

[RussB23]

It really doesn't matter at this point because neither Luis Ortiz or Alexander Povetkin stand a chance against Deontay Wilder given the WBC's stringent clean boxing program in association with VADA and the fact that they won't be juicing.

The "WBC clean boxing program" has found ortiz innocent of any PED use. What do you think of that?

[Boksfan]

The path that Wilder had to the WBC title is highly questionable. After that fight with "Fraudley" Harrison, he went up against Liakhovich who lost four of his previous six fights with the two fights before Wilder being KO losses. Next it was Nicholai Firtha who lost to Povetkin, Fury, and Jonathan Banks...followed by Malik Scott who took a dive, and then Jason Gavern who was a late replacement.

He got a shot at the WBC title from that resume against Bermane Stiverne who won the title in May 2014 against Chris Arreola in a rematch that happened more than a year before. The WBC has in it's rules that the champion should defend at least three times a year or at least every 120 days unless permitted by the WBC



Now Stiverne had the title in May 2014 and did not defend it until January 2015. That is about twice the amount of days that the WBC mandates. Unless Stiverne had an injury that wasn't really publicized that would delay him from defending the belt, something is up with that...

As a follow-up, Wilder didn't go by those rules stated for his first defense against Eric Molina or following his defense against Szpilka (even with the Povetkin fight getting scrapped).



Those with sense would know that Joshua had the IBF mandatory to obligate first before fighting Ortiz, and they were able to figure out their title situation better than the WBA. Some folks still haven't answered why the WBA didn't have a "regular" heavyweight champion for nearly two years and a "super" champion for about a year.

Ortiz didn't fill out a form correctly for an exemption, but the WBC still has been able to excuse some fighters for their offenses. Don't be surprised if it happens again.

Yeah and reading that some people still gonna defend Wilder and demand respect for him, smh.

[Boksfan]

I apologize to the forum as I stand corrected. You are right. I was wrong and misinformed. Bermane Stiverne was indeed Wilder's mandatory challenger for his WBC title. Therefore, I retract my earlier posts. Team Wilder paid Stiverne step aside money in order to challenge Ortiz for his title but Luis subsequently failed the drug tests. However "The Real King Kong Luis Ortiz was Anthony Joshua's mandatory challenger for the WBA title though; But Joshua opted to defend his IBF mandatory instead. Therefore, I am requesting that you and the members of the NSB community in general and Boksfan in particular to please accept this retraction.

All cool brother. I'm looking forward to Wilder and Ortiz clash!

[Boksfan]

You know that AJ's last two opponents were 41 and 38, respectively. Correct?

His current opponent is 25 so you have no arguments.

[sweeterscience]

Short wingspan is likely to be Povetkin's doom

Giving up almost five inches in height and having a wingspan just under 75-inches makes me worry about Povetkin's chances of leaving outside of a stretcher when Wilder whips those big, looping shots. Povetkin is a superior technician, but he has a lot of ring miles on those tires, pushing 40 and has an increasingly porous defense. Yeesh.