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Last edited by jjsmyth87; 01-31-2018, 10:45 PM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postloma is more popular than mikey so now they want loma-linares.
if haymon is willing to lose that much money to make mikey happy then he is a fool.
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yeah the 3.5 million is probably bull but lets look at it...
there was this in october: IBF welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr. (22-0, 19 KOs) is promised a purse of $3.5 million for his next fight in December or January, according to Dan Rafael.
but then...
Spence's purse was a reported $1.2 million for the fight and Peterson took home $600,000 in a losing effort.
so that tells us either the 3.5 million is a lie or that haymon is paying them behind the scenes on top of their official purse. if haymon is paying them behind the scenes that means: the opponent doesnt matter at all since haymon is paying them outside of the contract, or two: haymon will only pay them that much if they fight certain opponents he wants aka protecting them. if hes willing to pay mikey 3.5 for lipinets but not linares that is grade a protection. bribing your fighters to fight bums? wow that would be low.
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Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View PostEasy because Loma has a much larger fanbase and gets many more views for his fight than Mikey and therefore will be a bigger payday. Also Loma is considered P4p #1 or 2 by most of the credible outlets that rank fighters so beating him would gain Linares much more respect in addition to more money. Also much more recognition fighting on Espn which will get double the views of a Showtime fight against Mikey. Sorry that your boy Mikey has avoided the challenges and is fighting bums on Pbc
Rigo made $400,000 for his fight with Loma. To Loma's $1.2 million. Loma-Rigo had a combined purse of $1.6 million. AB-Mikey had $2 million. If a two-time Olympic champion and undefeated world champion as a pro only gets $80,000 more than Zlaticanin, you mean to say, you think that means Arum will pay Linares more than Garcia would??? Really???
Going by history, it seems there is quite a bit more money available for fighting Mikey.
And say what you want, but if a p4p fighter, two-time Olympic champion is making a third of what Mikey Garcia is making, than that seems pretty clear Loma has made considerably worse financial decisions than Mikey. Twice the views, and a smaller purse? And that $1.2 million for Loma is BEFORE taking Arum's cut out, which was in six figures. Why the hell do boxers let Arum **** them like this???
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostIt does appear Linares is looking to cash out and yes Loma is more popular than Mikey. But it still doesn't change that Golden Boy didn't negotiate in good faith with Mikey. If they're willing to negotiate in good faith with Loma, more power to them. Loma vs. Linares is an interesting fight. I think Loma wins handily, but it's still a good fight.
Haymon is a millionaire many many times over. He is, by far, the most powerful man in the entire sport of boxing. Is it possible that if he does something you don't understand or if you read lies about him, maybe you are the fool and not him? Isn't that possible? That somebody as rich and successful as he is in business, especially as a black man in America, is probably not a fool?
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easter has so many tools but doesnt know how to use them the compare him to hearns maybe in size but when hes fighting these little guys like shafikov,fortuna he shrinks down to their size doesnt use his freakish height like a paul williams did if anything the man is a phisical specimen who could win titles all the way to welter iff and i say big if he learns how to use his size nobody ducking him he went life and death with shaficov a soon to be gatekeeper who had to go down in weight to not be at such disadvantage and easter went life and death with him winning a split dec.now linares is a different animal has tasted devestating defeats by ko and still came back to be the man at 135 the only guy who can get near loma in phisical ability his only issue is he used to get pulled into brawls when he needs to box but pure talent wise him and loma are prob. top 10 in phisical tools department and linares is a natural 135 whos soon to go to 140 so i think this would be his first real challenge talentwise a guy whom i doubt will say nomaschenko with the exception of his daddy salido who taught him the pro game lol.
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Originally posted by Dr.Cool View PostZlaticanin was paid $320,000 for facing Mikey. AB and Mikey each made a million for their fight.
Rigo made $400,000 for his fight with Loma. To Loma's $1.2 million. Loma-Rigo had a combined purse of $1.6 million. AB-Mikey had $2 million. If a two-time Olympic champion and undefeated world champion as a pro only gets $80,000 more than Zlaticanin, you mean to say, you think that means Arum will pay Linares more than Garcia would??? Really???
Going by history, it seems there is quite a bit more money available for fighting Mikey.
And say what you want, but if a p4p fighter, two-time Olympic champion is making a third of what Mikey Garcia is making, than that seems pretty clear Loma has made considerably worse financial decisions than Mikey. Twice the views, and a smaller purse? And that $1.2 million for Loma is BEFORE taking Arum's cut out, which was in six figures. Why the hell do boxers let Arum **** them like this???
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Originally posted by Dr.Cool View PostZlaticanin was paid $320,000 for facing Mikey. AB and Mikey each made a million for their fight.
Rigo made $400,000 for his fight with Loma. To Loma's $1.2 million. Loma-Rigo had a combined purse of $1.6 million. AB-Mikey had $2 million. If a two-time Olympic champion and undefeated world champion as a pro only gets $80,000 more than Zlaticanin, you mean to say, you think that means Arum will pay Linares more than Garcia would??? Really???
Going by history, it seems there is quite a bit more money available for fighting Mikey.
And say what you want, but if a p4p fighter, two-time Olympic champion is making a third of what Mikey Garcia is making, than that seems pretty clear Loma has made considerably worse financial decisions than Mikey. Twice the views, and a smaller purse? And that $1.2 million for Loma is BEFORE taking Arum's cut out, which was in six figures. Why the hell do boxers let Arum **** them like this???
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Originally posted by daggum View Postyes i'm the fool cause he lost hundreds of millions of dollars for his shareholders.
growing your business is usually what is deemed as a success. not losing all the money.
Nobody has more power in boxing than Haymon does. So isn't it possible he isn't a fool? And that perhaps you've either read false information about him or misunderstand his actions?
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Originally posted by daggum View Postyeah the 3.5 million is probably bull but lets look at it...
there was this in october: IBF welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr. (22-0, 19 KOs) is promised a purse of $3.5 million for his next fight in December or January, according to Dan Rafael.
but then...
Spence's purse was a reported $1.2 million for the fight and Peterson took home $600,000 in a losing effort.
so that tells us either the 3.5 million is a lie or that haymon is paying them behind the scenes on top of their official purse. if haymon is paying them behind the scenes that means: the opponent doesnt matter at all since haymon is paying them outside of the contract, or two: haymon will only pay them that much if they fight certain opponents he wants aka protecting them. if hes willing to pay mikey 3.5 for lipinets but not linares that is grade a protection. bribing your fighters to fight bums? wow that would be low.
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