Comments Thread For: Lomachenko vs. Linares: Arum on Board, Ready To Negotiate

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from my understanding, Linares is the best option for Mikey.

Best option in what way?

But negotiations broke down for whatever reason

Golden Boy never negotiated in good faith. They tried to use Cotto and Linares to steal Mikey away from Haymon, not realizing Haymon has him locked up.

Then Golden Boy offered a one fight deal, but the fight had to be on HBO. An obvious deal breaker.

Now Golden Boy claims they eventually offered 50/50, with the fight going to the highest bidder, but Garcia is better off with a purse bid instead of that deal.

Mikey is fighting the only person who has a title at 140, besides Crawford, who oddly enough still has one.

Crawford doesn't have a title at 140. The WBC has announced a fight for the vacant title, the next set of ratings just haven't been published yet.

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Fair enough. But this sounds news sounds like the same as all the bs with Mikey. The question is, will Arum let Loma fight on hbo? Will GB let Linares fight on a TR card on espn?

Didn't Arum suggest they could be doing some PPV's this year? If Loma vs Linares gets made maybe that could be their first PPV (although at that proposed date I saw, one week after GGG vs Canelo II that isn't smart so I doubt it'll happen).

But yea overall I agree thats an issue TR & GBP will need to figure out & figure out with their network partners which makes the degree of difficulty with making that fight (or any fight w/cats signed to different networks or working with promoters who are aligned with a network) higher than normal obviously.

If Linares is willing to fight off hbo for Loma, but not for Mikey, then that just suggests Linares is blatantly ducking Mikey. And if he isn't, then this is the same as the talk about Mikey and Linares before. Theater and bs.

I mean is it even down to Linares or Loma with the network? If Linares gots a HBO deal (does he? I'm not legit sure) or just a deal with Oscar who has a deal with HBO Linares' being willing or not willing might not even be in play. He could & very well is likely to be out of the decision making process to his HBO deal or his deal with Oscar who's down with HBO & would need to be the one who makes the call.

And I imagine its the same situation with Loma. Loma is gonna fight where Arum telling him to fight not where Loma may or may not wanna fight.

These sorta decisions are outta fighters hands I believe. I know fans love to make everything about "scared" or "ducking" fighters but 99% of the time these boxers got commitments to networks & a contract with them if they are THAT big or they got a contract with a promoter thats making the bigger calls on when & where fights happen at.

Boxers are out of the loop on this sh^t usually. Sh^t Floyd might be the biggest boxer ever & he was still signed to Showtime so he was fighting on Showtime & all these other mfers needed to bend if they wanted to fight Floyd & only when a guy as big as Manny (with a HBO connection) did things get steered to those networks working together, but idk that that was about Manny or Floyd so much as the networks deciding that there was so much money to be made here they weren't THAT opposed to allowing their competitor to be involved..

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Best option in what way?

Just in that Linares seems to be the toughest possible opponent for Mikey in the near future. At least in the eyes of many. At 135, there is Easter, but anyone who saw his fight with Fortuna, knows that is an easy fight for Mikey. Loma is not possible while he is with TR.

And 140 has no names or proven talent. It just seems, there isn't much talent or money at 135 and 140. Not a wide range of possible opponents who can even be considered credible or deserving.

Mikey is too good and everyone else is too mediocre.

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Just in that Linares seems to be the toughest possible opponent for Mikey

Let's say that's true (and it very well may be). Why should Mikey face the toughest possible opponent for the least amount of money? So Linares isn't the best option, he's actually the worst option. Especially since his promoter is never negotiating in good faith.

Golden Boy insisted on a 50/50 split of the money for a Garcia-Linares fight. Garcia declined. So Linares fought the opening fight on Boxing After Dark for $300,000.

Garcia is headlining Showtime Championship Boxing and will make a LOT more than $300,000. So clearly a 50/50 split was an unreasonable demand.

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What the heck of have you been smoking??? Links please.

Garcia said he would love to fight Loma and he believes Loma would fight him, but that Arum won't let it happen. Considering, Arum made Mayweather leave if he wanted to fight ODLH, when that set a ppv record, I really doubt Bob would allow this fight to happen. Even if he is 99% sure Loma would win, he still wouldn't do it, just out of spite for Mikey.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-gar...ght-me--123600

As for Linares, it seems it was an hbo/showtime conflict that kept it from happening. If Mikey fought Linares it would probably have to be on hbo and Haymon really wants to keep Mikey, so they are paying him $3.5 million to face Lipinets, the only champ at 140. Mikey has said repeatedly he wants Linares next, but that he was offered more to face Lipinets. And that Linares is next. Linares said that too, but now he is saying he wants to lose to Loma first.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-gar...pinets--123604

You are a freaking hater and a crackhead. I don't know what you have against Mikey, but he obviously must be pretty dang good, if all you can come up with are lies. I was asking a serious question, and you are a worthless troll. You just made me think quite a bit better of Mikey, considering you went out of your way to make up lies to try and discredit him. I need to watch all his pre-AB fights.

I tried to tell you that Linares would offer the fight Lomachenko and Loma would be the guy take it. I also said that Mikey would not end up fighting Linares, Cotto, Easter or Spence or anyone else he called out...he would instead fight Lipinets.

I'm sorry but nothing I said was hateful, just truthful.

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Golden Boy never asked for options on Garcia with the Linares fight, that was with Cotto. They said 1 fight, whichever network put up the most money would show it. It was the 50/50 that Mikey didn't like, and I don't see how much that can change from then til now.

If they get a good offer from Lomachenko they should go with it, youll never know what type of **** Garcia will pull come March

It's March...Mikey came up with Lipinets.

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Let's say that's true (and it very well may be). Why should Mikey face the toughest possible opponent for the least amount of money? So Linares isn't the best option, he's actually the worst option. Especially since his promoter is never negotiating in good faith.

Golden Boy insisted on a 50/50 split of the money for a Garcia-Linares fight. Garcia declined. So Linares fought the opening fight on Boxing After Dark for $300,000.

Garcia is headlining Showtime Championship Boxing and will make a LOT more than $300,000. So clearly a 50/50 split was an unreasonable demand.

In the end, action talks and BS walks.

The bigger name Mikey came up with was Lipinets. Nobody else knows who he is but hell, he's a house hold name in Martuk, Kazakhstan.

Thank God Mikey held out for that pay day.

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In the end, action talks and BS walks.

The bigger name Mikey came up with was Lipinets. Nobody else knows who he is but hell, he's a house hold name in Martuk, Kazakhstan.

Thank God Mikey held out for that pay day.

And Mercito Gesta was a huge star?

All Linares has had to do is demand a purse bid. Yet over and over he picks other opponents. Now choosing Lomachenko over Mikey. I think Linares loses either of those fights, but clearly GBP prefers to take their chances taking on the smaller guy moving up.

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Pumped at the thought of it, but realistically will end up exactly like this..