Comments Thread For: Wilder: Ortiz Probably Thinking About Using PEDs, He Better Not!

[Vinnykin]

tough to say. Obviously it's not something he wants or needs to do. I was just saying...

You were insinuating that Wilder is a CW like the original comment I replied to.

Do you think Wilder could cut down to 200lbs and be the same fighter? do you think he is a CW fighting at HW?

yes or no, don't beat around the bush and say...."well maybe if he got a nutritionist and cut the weight over 6 months, he could then go and beat the champions at CW" BS.....he'd be annihilated BTW, every CW champion is a better boxer than Wilder.

[_Rexy_]

You were insinuating that Wilder is a CW like the original comment I replied to.

Do you think Wilder could cut down to 200lbs and be the same fighter? do you think he is a CW fighting at HW?

yes or no, don't beat around the bush and say...."well maybe if he got a nutritionist and cut the weight over 6 months, he could then go and beat the champions at CW" BS.....he'd be annihilated BTW, every CW champion is a better boxer than Wilder.

no I dont think that hes a CW at all. a CW at his height would be absurd. I think he's a HW with a body type similar to Tommy Hearns.

cutting 20-25lbs of muscle is idiotic anyways. Look what happened to RJJ

[Bonduu]

Another top five on tha champs resume and another successful title defense of the most prestigious title in the history of the sport. Most entertaining HW in the game : leader in ratings, ESPN #10 P4P! #40-0!

Stay mad.

Stay delusional!

[SinderellaMan]

Stiverne was never even top 10 never mind top 5, just a ranking bought for him by Don King. it's like saying Dillian Whyte is a top 5 HW because he is ranked in the WBC, while ignoring Takam, Povetkin , Charr, Klitschko, Fury, Joshua, Parker etc etc all of whom WHOOP Stiverne's ass badly.

Wilder is a fraud, never beaten a top 10 HW in the world. Stiverne don't count buddy, and if you think Stiverne was in the top 10 HW's in 2015, you ****ing DKSAB

Stiverne was the WBC #1 contender (somehow) last fight & the champ in 2015. PEDvetkin was #1 before getting popped, etc. Wilder's resume is no worse than AJ. Klit was 41, off almost 2 years, & wanted that ultra pay day. Martin "won" his belt by a guy blowing out his knee.
Duhupaus lost to Wilder but KO'd an undefeated Helenius & Molina KO'd Adamek (big deal) in his own country though. Washington got sparked in the 1st round Wilder let his hands fly. Big Baby didn't get a true knockout vs Wash.
And as for Wlad, whom I watched from 2003-retirement.
Byrd, Calvin Brock, Ibragamov, and a bunch of no names. Wlad fought in a dead division as did Vitali. Wlad retired at the right time because he either had to fight Wilder or AJ and both would seriously hurt him. Wilder will destroy AJ but I get the feeling that Hearn won't let that fight happen ever; especially after what's about to happen to Ortiz.

[SinderellaMan]

Get ready fight fans. Hate it or love it, this is the year of the Bronze Bomber. Nothing, no man, no fan is going to stop this man. This is a truly special American heavyweight that should have received much more support from retired American champs but these old guys are too busy kissing AJ's ass. I grew up watching Mike Tyson and I'm very disappointed that he shows Wilder no support whatsoever. Tyson was being mocked the same way just without social media as a platform. Wilder reads all of the garbage said online about him and he uses it as motivation to get better and better. I stand by my countrymen as our cousins across the pond like to say.

[SinderellaMan]

And for anybody who claims Haye was a great name on Wlad's resume, we all know how that is. Haye only became a world champ because Holyfield was blatantly robbed when he schooled Valuev. Holyfield should be the oldest heavyweight champion on record.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Who said Joshua? You said Brits are scared, there's more than one Brit on the planet.

No he turned it down and fought the most insignificant fight of his career against Stiverne.

Joshua isn’t scared it’s his bytch ass fanboys who are scared.

[Redgloveman]

Stiverne was the WBC #1 contender (somehow) last fight & the champ in 2015. PEDvetkin was #1 before getting popped, etc. Wilder's resume is no worse than AJ. Klit was 41, off almost 2 years, & wanted that ultra pay day. Martin "won" his belt by a guy blowing out his knee.
Duhupaus lost to Wilder but KO'd an undefeated Helenius & Molina KO'd Adamek (big deal) in his own country though. Washington got sparked in the 1st round Wilder let his hands fly. Big Baby didn't get a true knockout vs Wash.

So basically your argument is that Stiverne is a big name. I think that's contentious at best. Stiverne's only good win is Chris f**king Arreola. Plus Stiverne was knocked out by Demetrice King and dropped heavily by Derric Rossy who he struggled against (and who got KTFO in 2 rounds by Audley Harrison, one of the worst HWs I've ever seen).

Then you mention Povetkin who Wilder never actually fought.

Duhupaus and Molina... let's be completely honest here, they're weak names - and using Molina to argue that Wilder's record is better than AJ's is incredibly dumb for very obvious reasons.

You then go on to talk about Washington and say "yeah, but Wilder would have knocked him out in 1 if he'd let his hands go"... That's some dumb s**t.

If you're a Wilder fan, that's all good. I don't blame you. But just don't try to defend his record, because for a guy with 39 fights and 6 title defences it's objectively weak as hell and makes you look dumb.

Doesn't mean Wilder's not a damn good fighter. But if you try to make out that his record is strong then you'll just look silly. Just suck it up and hope that his record improves - which it will if he beats Ortiz

[Robbie Barrett]

Joshua isn’t scared it’s his bytch ass fanboys who are scared.

If anyone is scared it's the Wilder fans backing him pricing himself out. They obviously don't want the fight.

[Vinnykin]

Stiverne was the WBC #1 contender (somehow) last fight & the champ in 2015. PEDvetkin was #1 before getting popped, etc. Wilder's resume is no worse than AJ. Klit was 41, off almost 2 years, & wanted that ultra pay day. Martin "won" his belt by a guy blowing out his knee.
Duhupaus lost to Wilder but KO'd an undefeated Helenius & Molina KO'd Adamek (big deal) in his own country though. Washington got sparked in the 1st round Wilder let his hands fly. Big Baby didn't get a true knockout vs Wash.
And as for Wlad, whom I watched from 2003-retirement.
Byrd, Calvin Brock, Ibragamov, and a bunch of no names. Wlad fought in a dead division as did Vitali. Wlad retired at the right time because he either had to fight Wilder or AJ and both would seriously hurt him. Wilder will destroy AJ but I get the feeling that Hearn won't let that fight happen ever; especially after what's about to happen to Ortiz.

I don't care about the WBC rankings!!!!!!!

Stiverne was NEVER a top 10 HW, he just got in there by cherry picking and his promoter. You think Dillian Whyte is top 10 right now? he's the no1 challenger in the WBC.....****ing BS!