Comments Thread For: Adonis Stevenson vs. Eleider Alvarez Will Happen, Says Michel

[Shane1091]

Alvarez deserves what he gets the ******s had 2 or more chances to get a title shot but he step aside a few times... If anything WBC should drop him at least 5 places from the list...

[brettWall]

You say he won't make meaningful fights, then he makes one and you still complain. Why not just admit you hate your life? That's clearly the real issue here.

After how many years? Three? Come on dude. You don't need a special feminine name for a promoter to make fights happen for Chickenson as long as Chickenson says yes to meaningful fights. Adonis is feeling the pressure so he's finally stepping up. It's certainly not because of this Yvon clown.

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After how many years? Three? Come on dude. You don't need a special feminine name for a promoter to make fights happen for Chickenson as long as Chickenson says yes to meaningful fights. Adonis is feeling the pressure so he's finally stepping up. It's certainly not because of this Yvon clown.

You can't even keep your story straight. Is Michel the one refusing to make bigger fights or not? Now you're blaming Stevenson (who you call "Chickenson" because you're a child unable to have an adult conversation).

The truth is that Stevenson has always fought the biggest fights presented to him. He gets blamed for "ducking" Hopkins and Kovalev, even though the facts clearly prove they were the ones ducking him.

Stevenson has one punch knockout power. If you have a star, you keep your star away from one punch knockout power at all costs. You bluster in the media all day long, but you do not let your fighter into the ring with somebody that has one punch knockout power.

The truth is that Stevenson is one of the most avoided boxers in the sport. But the HBO propaganda machine has brilliantly convinced unsuspecting fans that Stevenson is the one avoiding big fights. The facts just don't support that premise.

[brettWall]

You can't even keep your story straight. Is Michel the one refusing to make bigger fights or not? Now you're blaming Stevenson (who you call "Chickenson" because you're a child unable to have an adult conversation).

The truth is that Stevenson has always fought the biggest fights presented to him. He gets blamed for "ducking" Hopkins and Kovalev, even though the facts clearly prove they were the ones ducking him.

Stevenson has one punch knockout power. If you have a star, you keep your star away from one punch knockout power at all costs. You bluster in the media all day long, but you do not let your fighter into the ring with somebody that has one punch knockout power.

The truth is that Stevenson is one of the most avoided boxers in the sport. But the HBO propaganda machine has brilliantly convinced unsuspecting fans that Stevenson is the one avoiding big fights. The facts just don't support that premise.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself as a fan spewing such crap. Chickenson sought shelter in the arms of his uncle Haymon when he's about to be fed to Kovalev. Even Espinoza chimed in and approved of such duck move justifying it saying Chickenson would have a bigger fight with Hopkins eventually. Guess what, the Hopkins fight never happened. Hopkins got sick of Chickenson's pu55iness and fought a bigger threat in Kovalev. You're not saying Kov is not a huge win for Ward, are you? Or are you saying Ward ducked Chickenson also?

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You ought to be ashamed of yourself as a fan spewing such crap.

#1 - I'm not a fan. #2 - If I'm "spewing crap," you should be able to easily disprove my claims. Yet, you can't. Interesting.

Chickenson sought shelter in the arms of his uncle Haymon when he's about to be fed to Kovalev. Even Espinoza chimed in and approved of such duck move justifying it saying Chickenson would have a bigger fight with Hopkins eventually. Guess what, the Hopkins fight never happened.

That's because Hopkins ducked Stevenson. Hopkins considered Kovalev the safer fight.

Hopkins got sick of Chickenson's pu55iness and fought a bigger threat in Kovalev.

You're rewriting history. He was not considered a bigger threat at the time. Not by Hopkins, not by GBP, and certainly not by the oddsmakers.

You're not saying Kov is not a huge win for Ward, are you? Or are you saying Ward ducked Chickenson also?

Great wins for Ward. Who said otherwise? But Ward had the chance to become undisputed champion against Stevenson and chose to retire instead. Tells you all you need to know.

Judges can be manipulated. Commentators can be manipulated. Referees can be manipulated. The media can be manipulated. This is a dirty dirty game. But the one thing promoters fear the most is an opponent with one punch knockout power because it neutralizes the most common methods of manipulation.

So you end up with guys like Stevenson and Wilder who are ducked and avoided, but then painted as the duckers by the HBO propaganda machine. If you knew anything about how this business operates, you would know a guy like Stevenson is who you avoid at all costs. Because there's nothing you can do to steal a win when your fighter gets knocked out cold. It's the one thing corruption struggles to stop.

[killakali]

Nobody said he went to Warren.




Because you just post a ton of false information and expect me to wade through all of it. Waste of time. How many times do you have to be caught in a lie only for you to change the subject and post 30 more lies?

i asked for your comments on pbc having to give Spence a massive overpay and guaranteeing him 3 fights for 2018 to keep him from signing a promotional contract.

I also asked who do u think will be the next defections from pbc. There are so many fighters unhappy with their inactivity while the get rusty sitting around.

[killakali]

#1 - I'm not a fan. #2 - If I'm "spewing crap," you should be able to easily disprove my claims. Yet, you can't. Interesting.




That's because Hopkins ducked Stevenson. Hopkins considered Kovalev the safer fight.




You're rewriting history. He was not considered a bigger threat at the time. Not by Hopkins, not by GBP, and certainly not by the oddsmakers.




Great wins for Ward. Who said otherwise? But Ward had the chance to become undisputed champion against Stevenson and chose to retire instead. Tells you all you need to know.

Judges can be manipulated. Commentators can be manipulated. Referees can be manipulated. The media can be manipulated. This is a dirty dirty game. But the one thing promoters fear the most is an opponent with one punch knockout power because it neutralizes the most common methods of manipulation.

So you end up with guys like Stevenson and Wilder who are ducked and avoided, but then painted as the duckers by the HBO propaganda machine. If you knew anything about how this business operates, you would know a guy like Stevenson is who you avoid at all costs. Because there's nothing you can do to steal a win when your fighter gets knocked out cold. It's the one thing corruption struggles to stop.

then why is Stevenson avoiding alvarez and his low KO percentage st all costs lmaooo? why he Badou Jack been calling out Stevenson? Hmmm. Why did Kovalev call to fight him. No one is avoiding Stevenson. Just Stevenson chooses to fight bums like karpency Fonfara Thomas Williams etc

[killakali]

#1 - I'm not a fan. #2 - If I'm "spewing crap," you should be able to easily disprove my claims. Yet, you can't. Interesting.




That's because Hopkins ducked Stevenson. Hopkins considered Kovalev the safer fight.




You're rewriting history. He was not considered a bigger threat at the time. Not by Hopkins, not by GBP, and certainly not by the oddsmakers.




Great wins for Ward. Who said otherwise? But Ward had the chance to become undisputed champion against Stevenson and chose to retire instead. Tells you all you need to know.

Judges can be manipulated. Commentators can be manipulated. Referees can be manipulated. The media can be manipulated. This is a dirty dirty game. But the one thing promoters fear the most is an opponent with one punch knockout power because it neutralizes the most common methods of manipulation.

So you end up with guys like Stevenson and Wilder who are ducked and avoided, but then painted as the duckers by the HBO propaganda machine. If you knew anything about how this business operates, you would know a guy like Stevenson is who you avoid at all costs. Because there's nothing you can do to steal a win when your fighter gets knocked out cold. It's the one thing corruption struggles to stop.

we get u are a biased PBC nuthugger but u are drunk and/or high too. Wilder avoided? Lmaooo GTFOH. He has been managed, promoted, advised and marketed horribly. That’s why he can only sel tickets in Alabama.

Shout to 1Iota for filling those empty seats at Barclays to make it look like uncle al can sell tickets.

Wilder isn’t avoided. The fact is wilder brings nothing to the Table. No incentive besides a belt to fight him. Wilder he never even made 2 million for a fight and Joseph Parker is about to make 9.4 million.

Wilder should be happy to take 40% vs joshua. It would be more than the total of his career purses combined.

Wilders been a 2nd class fighter and he can blame Haymon for that. When Haymon sold charles martins belt to Joshua he helped create the Joshua hype machine which allowed Joshua to get the Klitschko fight and become a bigger star.

So now joshua knocks down 15-20 million a fight while wilder makes 1.4 million. Haymon inadvertenty made joshua a star and wilder has stayed a second class fighter wilder should also have that IBF belt but Haymon sold it to Joshua and Hearn.

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i asked for your comments on pbc having to give Spence a massive overpay and guaranteeing him 3 fights for 2018 to keep him from signing a promotional contract.

You can't get caught lying over and over, change the subject every time with 30 more lies and still expect me to spend my time responding to everything you post. If you want to have a reasonable conversation in good faith, I'd be happy to discuss whatever you wish, but if you're going to continue throwing **** at the wall and hoping something sticks, I'm not going to fall for it.

PBC didn't have to give Spence anything. He was already scheduled for three fights in 2018. His January fight was really just his second fight from 2017, but it got delayed by a month. When the fight was delayed, he was assured it wouldn't count as one of his 2018 dates and he'd still get two more fights.

Spence's filed purse was $1.2 million. Based on others in the PBC universe, I don't see how that's a "massive overpay."

who do u think will be the next defections from pbc. There are so many fighters unhappy with their inactivity while the get rusty sitting around.

First of all, you have no idea who is happy and unhappy. You just believe everything you're spoon fed by the HBO propaganda machine.

Second of all, most fighters are unhappy with their activity and money regardless of who their promoter or manager is. There are very few big money TV dates to go around. Haymon's fighters can fight as often as they want, but if they want big money, they have to wait for a date from Showtime.

Haymon hasn't lost anybody that affects his control of any of the divisions he's heavily invested in. Jacobs switched sides because 160 was an HBO controlled weight class and he could still be waiting a long time before he gets a big fight.

Like with all things, Haymon is treated with a double standard. Arum, DLH, etc will have guys on the shelf forever and you never hear a peep, but somehow Haymon is expected to keep 200 fighters busy at all times with major money fights even if 150 of those guys would be making peanuts fighting for anybody else.

You saw who was on the stage at the SHO Upfront presentation. That is Haymon's meat and potatoes. Which of those guys are you claiming he's about to lose?

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then why is Stevenson avoiding alvarez and his low KO percentage st all costs lmaooo?

He's not. Stevenson takes whatever is the biggest money option he's presented with. Stevenson vs. Alvarez two years ago isn't a big money fight because nobody knew who Alvarez was and Showtime wasn't interested in the fight.

Stevenson vs. Jack is a bigger fight for bigger money, so that's the fight Stevenson is taking. How can you criticize a guy for taking the bigger fight against the higher ranked competition?

why he Badou Jack been calling out Stevenson?

Until last year, Jack was fighting at super middleweight. He moved to light heavyweight and called out Stevenson and Stevenson said okay. Now they're fighting. Do you see how ****** you sound when you say stuff like this?

Why did Kovalev call to fight him. No one is avoiding Stevenson.

Kovalev was Stevenson's mandatory. The fight was ordered by the WBC. Stevenson said yes. Kovalev said no, vacated his mandatory position and blatantly ducked Stevenson. How are you not aware of this?