Comments Thread For: Ortiz To Wilder: I'm a Knockout Artist - Remember I Told You So!

[Redgloveman]

I think Ortiz wins but it's hard to say cause nobody knows how good or bad wilder is cause he's never faced anyone with a heartbeat like Ortiz

He's got a heartbeat, but without his blood pressure medication who knows what that heartbeat's gonna be like. He is old as f**k.

If it was the Ortiz of a few years ago then I would probably favour him for the reason you mention - though Ortiz's own resume is also pretty weak he always looked like a very good fighter. In his last few fights though he's looked terrible and it seems age has really caught up with him.

I imagine Wilder's going to come in with a fairly conservative gameplan. Ortiz isn't going to be able to catch up to s**t judging by his last 3 fights, so Wilder will box off the back foot and won't look for the stoppage unless it presents itself when Ortiz is exhausted (which it probably will after 7 or so rounds).

If Wilder stays in the pocket too long or gets into exchanges then Ortiz's skills come into play and he could clip Wilder, and I don't think that's a risk that team Wilder will consider worth taking. Regardless of his age, Ortiz is perceived by the public to be dangerous, so Wilder doesn't have to look for a statement win, just a win will be enough to keep his momentum going into the AJ negotiations. If the knockout is there to be had, Wilder will go for it, but his camp won't even consider putting a giant Joshua payday at risk. They're close to becoming very rich (and if they beat AJ very famous too).

I really don't see Wilder losing the fight this unless he makes a ****** mistake. Ortiz looks too easy to box circles around.

[Liondw]

Wilder will beat Ortiz, ko or points, but an interesting fight indeed. Hopefully Ortiz passes the drug testing.

[Holler]

He's got a heartbeat, but without his blood pressure medication who knows what that heartbeat's gonna be like. He is old as f**k.

If it was the Ortiz of a few years ago then I would probably favour him for the reason you mention - though Ortiz's own resume is also pretty weak he always looked like a very good fighter. In his last few fights though he's looked terrible and it seems age has really caught up with him.

I imagine Wilder's going to come in with a fairly conservative gameplan. Ortiz isn't going to be able to catch up to s**t judging by his last 3 fights, so Wilder will box off the back foot and won't look for the stoppage unless it presents itself when Ortiz is exhausted (which it probably will after 7 or so rounds).

If Wilder stays in the pocket too long or gets into exchanges then Ortiz's skills come into play and he could clip Wilder, and I don't think that's a risk that team Wilder will consider worth taking. Regardless of his age, Ortiz is perceived by the public to be dangerous, so Wilder doesn't have to look for a statement win, just a win will be enough to keep his momentum going into the AJ negotiations. If the knockout is there to be had, Wilder will go for it, but his camp won't even consider putting a giant Joshua payday at risk. They're close to becoming very rich (and if they beat AJ very famous too).

I really don't see Wilder losing the fight this unless he makes a ****** mistake. Ortiz looks too easy to box circles around.

Excellent post, says it all.

[RedPath]

I'd like to see Wilder come through this one, just to see him face AJ. But I think Ortiz stops him sometime during the first half.

[JLC]

I say Ortiz by vicious knockout. This has nothing to do with power or range to me. Ortiz is one of the only big men that I see today that can set traps. Deontay fights using his intangibles for the most part (range, power, speed) and does it well... But he stands too low for someone who should fight tall.. I think Ortiz baits him and catches him coming in with a nasty counter.

Damn good perspective and breakdown bro. That’s a very possible outcome right there. I just wonder how good Ortiz is without the PEDs, not only power wise but stamina wise in his old age.

But as you said, he is a very smart fighter able to set traps, not to mention he has a deep punch selection. This is an interesting fight I’ll be rooting hard for Wilder to win, if for no other reason, to keep Wilder v AJ alive.

The Division is deep though. I don’t see a HUGE talent gap between the different tier heavyweights since the two top dogs are somewhat unproven. That means that anything can happen in this fight or many others that can be made.

[shakedaddy]

Range, power, & speed are tangibles, i.e. they can be measured. An intangible would be his will to win, ability to stay calm and focused under the bright lights, or his ring IQ.

[Patsfan bri]

Wilder by vicious KO, remember I told you all so.

[kafkod]

Fast Eddie had no intention of matching Ortiz against AJ, I reckon.

So when Ortiz found out, he bailed...

If that was true Hearn wouldn't have signed him in the first place.

[Boksfan]

Let's finally see what this Cuban is made of! If he's made of granite than Wilder is having one hell of a fight in front of him.

[JayCho]

If that was true Hearn wouldn't have signed him in the first place.

Exactly! Eddie has nothing in it for him to sign someone that isnt marketable and cant speak English, he signed him to fight AJ