Comments Thread For: Jose Ramirez, Amir Imam Deal Reached Before Purse Bid

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There was a purse bid scheduled for Friday, but a deal was reached for a showdown between junior welterweight Jose Ramrez and Amir Imam. The two boxers will battle for the vacant junior welterweight world title of the World Boxing Council. The belt became vacant when Terence Crawford moved up to the welterweight limit of 147-pounds.
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[mrpain81]

Good fight.

Both guys have a lot to prove.

[Boxing42]

Good fight but unfortunately for Amir I think he gets stopped in the 5th, Ramirez isn't the same as Granados but he's bigger and has the same volume of punches and granados

[Boxing Logic]

Everyone keeps saying Top Rank or K2 can't make deals with guys outside their promotional outfits, and yet they continue to do it constantly. The only true pattern is that Al Haymon fighters constantly struggle to make deals with other promotional outfits. The only top one I can think of is Danny Jacobs, and they delayed that so long that GGG lost a date in December and had to wait until March just to get Jacobs to fight him, and then Jacobs signed with Hearn right afterwards, so he wasn't as committed to Haymon anyway. And they had to overpay Jacobs to get him in the ring, which necessitated putting the fight on PPV and cutting the audience when the fight wasn't big enough to warrant PPV. Here we have Top Rank making a deal with someone outside their promotional outfit for a regular TV show, something that never happens with Haymon fighters. All the main Haymon guys can never come to agreements with TR fighters or K2 fighters or anyone else. THAT is the constant, not Top Rank or K2. They always have no trouble making deals among themselves. And bull**** like Alvarez agreeing to the WBC ruling initially, then waiting until the last week to pull out, seems to constantly happen with Haymon fighters, and almost never with anyone else.

So it's clear from the pattern that Haymon is the problem promoter, not these other promoters. I'm not saying they're honest or good people, but from the perspective of making the fights and working with each other, Haymon is the problem promoter ("adviser"), not the other ones.

[DJrabit]

Everyone keeps saying Top Rank or K2 can't make deals with guys outside their promotional outfits, and yet they continue to do it constantly. The only true pattern is that Al Haymon fighters constantly struggle to make deals with other promotional outfits. The only top one I can think of is Danny Jacobs, and they delayed that so long that GGG lost a date in December and had to wait until March just to get Jacobs to fight him, and then Jacobs signed with Hearn right afterwards, so he wasn't as committed to Haymon anyway. And they had to overpay Jacobs to get him in the ring, which necessitated putting the fight on PPV and cutting the audience when the fight wasn't big enough to warrant PPV. Here we have Top Rank making a deal with someone outside their promotional outfit for a regular TV show, something that never happens with Haymon fighters. All the main Haymon guys can never come to agreements with TR fighters or K2 fighters or anyone else. THAT is the constant, not Top Rank or K2. They always have no trouble making deals among themselves. And bull**** like Alvarez agreeing to the WBC ruling initially, then waiting until the last week to pull out, seems to constantly happen with Haymon fighters, and almost never with anyone else.

So it's clear from the pattern that Haymon is the problem promoter, not these other promoters. I'm not saying they're honest or good people, but from the perspective of making the fights and working with each other, Haymon is the problem promoter ("adviser"), not the other ones.

Haymon even has problems having his own fighters fight each other.

[ShoulderRoll]

Everyone keeps saying Top Rank or K2 can't make deals with guys outside their promotional outfits, and yet they continue to do it constantly. The only true pattern is that Al Haymon fighters constantly struggle to make deals with other promotional outfits. The only top one I can think of is Danny Jacobs, and they delayed that so long that GGG lost a date in December and had to wait until March just to get Jacobs to fight him, and then Jacobs signed with Hearn right afterwards, so he wasn't as committed to Haymon anyway. And they had to overpay Jacobs to get him in the ring, which necessitated putting the fight on PPV and cutting the audience when the fight wasn't big enough to warrant PPV. Here we have Top Rank making a deal with someone outside their promotional outfit for a regular TV show, something that never happens with Haymon fighters. All the main Haymon guys can never come to agreements with TR fighters or K2 fighters or anyone else. THAT is the constant, not Top Rank or K2. They always have no trouble making deals among themselves. And bull**** like Alvarez agreeing to the WBC ruling initially, then waiting until the last week to pull out, seems to constantly happen with Haymon fighters, and almost never with anyone else.

So it's clear from the pattern that Haymon is the problem promoter, not these other promoters. I'm not saying they're honest or good people, but from the perspective of making the fights and working with each other, Haymon is the problem promoter ("adviser"), not the other ones.

A purse bid was looming in this case so Arum didn't have much choice but to negotiate.

[lopez36]

the winner will face regis prograis...can't wait for that fight

[Scipio2009]

Everyone keeps saying Top Rank or K2 can't make deals with guys outside their promotional outfits, and yet they continue to do it constantly. The only true pattern is that Al Haymon fighters constantly struggle to make deals with other promotional outfits. The only top one I can think of is Danny Jacobs, and they delayed that so long that GGG lost a date in December and had to wait until March just to get Jacobs to fight him, and then Jacobs signed with Hearn right afterwards, so he wasn't as committed to Haymon anyway. And they had to overpay Jacobs to get him in the ring, which necessitated putting the fight on PPV and cutting the audience when the fight wasn't big enough to warrant PPV. Here we have Top Rank making a deal with someone outside their promotional outfit for a regular TV show, something that never happens with Haymon fighters. All the main Haymon guys can never come to agreements with TR fighters or K2 fighters or anyone else. THAT is the constant, not Top Rank or K2. They always have no trouble making deals among themselves. And bull**** like Alvarez agreeing to the WBC ruling initially, then waiting until the last week to pull out, seems to constantly happen with Haymon fighters, and almost never with anyone else.

So it's clear from the pattern that Haymon is the problem promoter, not these other promoters. I'm not saying they're honest or good people, but from the perspective of making the fights and working with each other, Haymon is the problem promoter ("adviser"), not the other ones.

Bob Arum has no problem making a deal, when the deal ends up with him running everything. As long as Top Rank is on the marquee, and Arum is making the decisions on the judges, lighting, ring, sponsors, etc, he'll grit his teeth about having to maybe pay up a bit more than he'd like, but he'd be cool with it.

Put Arum in a spot where he's got to just sit down and be on someone else's show, and he'll ***** and cry to no end.

Haymon looks after his fighter, presents the options, and let's his fighter take the best opportunity, wherever it manifests.

Showtime, PBC, HBO, BoxNation, Sky Sports, etc; if the opportunity makes sense for the fighter, Haymon goes with it.

[Bronx2245]

Everyone keeps saying Top Rank or K2 can't make deals with guys outside their promotional outfits, and yet they continue to do it constantly. The only true pattern is that Al Haymon fighters constantly struggle to make deals with other promotional outfits. The only top one I can think of is Danny Jacobs, and they delayed that so long that GGG lost a date in December and had to wait until March just to get Jacobs to fight him, and then Jacobs signed with Hearn right afterwards, so he wasn't as committed to Haymon anyway. And they had to overpay Jacobs to get him in the ring, which necessitated putting the fight on PPV and cutting the audience when the fight wasn't big enough to warrant PPV. Here we have Top Rank making a deal with someone outside their promotional outfit for a regular TV show, something that never happens with Haymon fighters. All the main Haymon guys can never come to agreements with TR fighters or K2 fighters or anyone else. THAT is the constant, not Top Rank or K2. They always have no trouble making deals among themselves. And bull**** like Alvarez agreeing to the WBC ruling initially, then waiting until the last week to pull out, seems to constantly happen with Haymon fighters, and almost never with anyone else.

So it's clear from the pattern that Haymon is the problem promoter, not these other promoters. I'm not saying they're honest or good people, but from the perspective of making the fights and working with each other, Haymon is the problem promoter ("adviser"), not the other ones.

Jacobs, Chavez Jr., Felix Diaz, and John Molina Jr., all faced other fighters ON THEIR NETWORKS, without purse bids! How many Top Ranks guys have faced PBC fighters on SHowtime?

[SteveM]

Is that a recent photo? Ramirez' face looks super bust up. In sparring?