Comments Thread For: Can Spence Overpower Peterson, Demolish Him Way Matthysse Did?

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  • Butch.McRae
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    #11
    Originally posted by factsarenice
    Spence will KO Peterson easy, I expect Peterson to look like Chris Algieri the squeal, part II.
    Unfortunately beating Peterson won't bring him any closer to Thurman because Peterson won't do much to improve his brand or ability to produce $$$. Thurman isn't going to fight because he doesn't need to, he's on the A side, he's the draw, he has options and the risk simply doesn't match the reward. Spence is no more of a draw then Paul Williams and Floyd avoided Paul Williams for exactly the same reason, the risk was not worth the reward. I don't think I'm going on a limb when I say I expect Errol Spence to be forced to move up to 154. If ever a fighter I saw that needed a promoter... it would be Errol Spence.
    You're on here talking nonsense. Thurman isn't a "draw". If he fought at Barclays against Peterson this weekend, I'm certain they'd sell nearly an identical amount of tickets. For the current WW crop, they have to be matched up to produce any real money or ratings. This "popularity" argument you're making is completely made up.

    Both Thurman and Spence have a nearly identical social media presence, and there YouTube videos pull similar numbers. The only time Thurman has put up big numbers was against Danny, Robert and Shawn. Basically, guys who are also of similar stature in terms if following.

    If Spence got those fights, he'd put up similar ratings b/c all of those guys have around the same size of followers/fans. I check every live gate/attendance on every big card throughout the year to see how the sport is doing fyi (ratings and jumps in social media accounts too). So if you can prove your popularity/money argument please do.

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    • Butch.McRae
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      #12
      Originally posted by harwri008
      I don't get the purpose of this article. Why would he compare the two fights when the second one hasn't happen yet? He even said the KO loss was an anomaly in Peterson's career. Spence and Matthysse are completely different fighters. Matthysse is a KO artist... Basically, a one hit wonder. Spence grinds his opponents down by applying a lot pressure and consistently going to the body.

      With that being said, Peterson is a different fighter than the one that lost to Matthysse. I'm not saying he wouldn't lose to that version of Matthysse again but I doubt it would end that quickly. I can see Spence stopping Peterson but I would be surprised if it happen within 3. To be honest, I think this goes the distance.
      These "writers" sometimes lol they write articles like this to set up a narrative for the post fight. If Spence doesnt stop Peterson, then that'll be the catalyst for trying to discredit him. Despite the fact that Lamont basically embarrassed Danny after the Lucas fight. In terms of competition, despite the late start, it was clear who the better fighter was in Garcia v. Peterson. Then he was strategically kept out of the top fights by Haymon and Co. (Why not the rematch campaign like what they've done for Porter?) Anybody that truly follows the sport knows this.

      I agree, we can't say he wouldn't get KO'd now, but the smart money wouldn't be on that outcome.

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      • Nomadic
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        #13
        He can and he will. I'll give 6 maybe 7, Spence by TKO.

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        • Nightfall
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          #14
          Spence sends quittysse to the moon

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          • Dean_Razorback
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            #15
            lucas fight will be in lamont's mind for sure. let's see if he tries to survive more than 3 rounds

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            • yoshik
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              #16
              For those that would criticize Spence for fighting Peterson, he's staying busy with a good fighter. Secondly, remember who the faux "TBE" fought for his last real boxing match. Berto. Who would lose to Peterson IMHO.

              There is no doubt that Spence could and would fight Thurman if Thurman was ready. He would beat Thurman. Thurman has so many holes in his game.

              The stage needs t be set and the drama has to build before big money would be generated. The Spence Thurman fight isn't worth that much right now.

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              • yoshik
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                #17
                Originally posted by Butch.McRae
                These "writers" sometimes lol they write articles like this to set up a narrative for the post fight. If Spence doesnt stop Peterson, then that'll be the catalyst for trying to discredit him. Despite the fact that Lamont basically embarrassed Danny after the Lucas fight. In terms of competition, despite the late start, it was clear who the better fighter was in Garcia v. Peterson. Then he was strategically kept out of the top fights by Haymon and Co. (Why not the rematch campaign like what they've done for Porter?) Anybody that truly follows the sport knows this.

                I agree, we can't say he wouldn't get KO'd now, but the smart money wouldn't be on that outcome.
                Great point. Peterson beat Danny "Gift" Garcia IMHO. I dont think Danny is a PBC darling anymore. There are many more good fighters under the banner of PBC. Time to offer a few up.

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                • yoshik
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by factsarenice
                  Peterson can't stay on the outside and foot work is only mediocre. Spence is too long, too much reach and at some point Peterson is going to hold up his gloves and lean on the ropes and that's when he gets koed.
                  That mediocre foot work danced all over Danny "Gift" Garcia. Peterson got screwed.

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                    #19
                    I think most people are selling Peterson short based on one fight. This guy is capable. He is a fringe "A" level fighter. Spence is NOT going to walk through him in just a few rounds. As a matter of a fact, if Spence doesn't take it serious from the word "go" Peterson has the skill and experience to pull the upset.

                    However, it is unfortunate for Peterson to say it sounds like Spence is ready to prove the Kell Brook win was not a one hit wonder. I feel Spence will happily take a Peterson at his finest and is hoping for it. He wants challenges, he truly wants the best. He is young, hungry, so very talented and seems very focused. Points to Peterson, who will duck no one, but sweet mother he just does not have enough skills to overcome Spence.

                    I want to say Spence by MD because I respect Peterson, but every instinct says Spence proves it again. He is elite, he is top 5 P4P, and he swarms a game Peterson to put him away in the late rounds. I will call it round 9 to just not wuss out on a prediction.

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                    • Butch.McRae
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by yoshik
                      Great point. Peterson beat Danny "Gift" Garcia IMHO. I dont think Danny is a PBC darling anymore. There are many more good fighters under the banner of PBC. Time to offer a few up.
                      So many people come on here talking straight bull**** its annoying.

                      On the Danny point. You can always tell when Al turns a guy into a scraficial piece in the puzzle. When he gets tired of the b.s. his team will shut a guy down and stall him until he has to have a fight (Arum perfected it). Lamont became a piece after the doping thing. Was used sparingly and put in position to prop up other guys (like he's being used this weekend). Danny is in that spot now. Garcia knows that. Which is why his interviews have changed. I expect him to be forced into a Spence fight by year's end. He may talk his way into a Porter (or Vargas) scrap, but it seems Errol is getting a strong push from Showtime now. So I wouldn't be surprised if he fought all three consecutively. There are a few other marginal WW pieces that Haymon has to throw in just in case, but I think Spence will threaten to sign with a promoter if he doesn't get his way.

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