Comments Thread For: DiBella: If Spence Dominates Peterson, There With Crawford, Loma

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Can’t make that many excuses man lol. If Zab had the focus of Floyd he’d have been amazing. If Ortiz had the heart of Gatti he’d have been a monster....etc etc


Peterson doesnt beat Matthysse in any contest involving fists maAnd he wont beat a bigger Spence even if he was trained by Nacho.

He lost period!. But I can't look back at his loses to see where he went wrong and could had change? Zab problems outside ring and personality caused his downfall. No excuses he lost fair and square but maybe he learned from those loses.

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Not a Top Rank fan, but kind of disagree to be honest. Bradley was not a draw and signing with them got him the Pac fight x 3, Marquez, etc. Probably over $20 million in the process. I can't see him earning that in any other scenario apart from fighting Floyd, beating Floyd and getting huge pay days in 2 fights, or a trilogy (highly unlikely).

I don't think Bradley is first ballot absolute certain HOF'er, but in my opinion he will get in. Wins over Witter, Holt, Peterson, Devon, Marquez, Vargas is no joke. I thought he lost all the Pac fights, but was highly competitive in all of them, he beat Chaves.

Unified 140 twice. Two time champ at 147. Top 10 p4p for much of his career. Yeah I see him getting in.

Didn't I say he made his money with top rank? My point was not if he was an draw or not. The point is Top Rank didn't have the stable to showcase Timmys talents! Besides Manny and Marquez and the Manny one was fix. He only beat one HOF!

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I think he will be Hof because of the way Top Rank handled his career. Bradley said Top Rank was the best promoter in the world not to long ago on his IG. Remember he only lost to Pacquiao. He beat Rios, Vargas, Marquez, Provodnikov, he was considered #3 at 147 behind manny and Floyd. At 140 he beat Devon Alexander, Carlos Abregu, Lamont Peterson, nate campbell, kendall holt, junior witter abd Edner Cherry and was considered #1 at 140. Also a bs win over Pacquiao. Pretty good for only 36 fights, two division belthilder and champion for many years. He retired young but Top Rank made him loads of mobey and put him in really good fights, something these freelance fighters arent doing besides mayweather

Besides Marquez he only beat one HOF. Manny doesn't count. I like him, don't get me wrong. He's not top 200 of all time.

[HarvardBlue]

Peterson has been beat before and had to fight his way back to a draw with Ortiz. With that being said he's a different fighter and could pose some problems for Spence. If it goes to the late rounds I expect Peterson to get stronger (so will Spence). This will be a good win for Spence if he pulls it off.

I thought he was right there he with Lomachenko with his resume before Rigondeaux. Although the fight didn't live up to it Lomachenko was able to separate from Spence with a win over Rigondeaux.

His defense is still suspect but Spence will cause problems for anyone in WW division.

[mrlopez]

Spence is good, could be great, BUT beating Peterson doesnt put in the best p4p convo, ever. If Spence beats and dominates Thurman then I would be ok with that conversation....but as of right now, DiBella bumpin his gums too much lol

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Didn't I say he made his money with top rank? My point was not if he was an draw or not. The point is Top Rank didn't have the stable to showcase Timmys talents! Besides Manny and Marquez and the Manny one was fix. He only beat one HOF!

I here what your saying, there are always misses in anyone's career. It would have been great to see him against Maidana, Floyd, Khan, Cotto, Brook between 2012-15.

But here is the thing - there is no guarantee any of those fights would have been made had he gone in a different direction promotionally, signing with Top Rank guaranteed Pacquiao. Also Floyd is the only fight on that list which is bigger in terms of difficulty, legacy and financially. I am not sure 3 or 4 names off that list are better than 3 fights with Pacquiao and a fight with Marquez.

Another thing to consider is no boxer fights killer after killer, so even if he wasn't with Top Rank, he would have still had to have had Provodnikov, Vargas, Chaves, level fights between the Pac and Marquez level fights. Maybe that would have been a Guerrero or a Malignaggi instead of those guys.

In terms of the last point. I'm not sure what that means. There are fighters in the HOF who have not beat a HOFer or one near his prime. He fought two still near their best, and beat one, whilst remaining competitive with an ATG. In fact both Marquez and Pac are ATG's.

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I here what your saying, there are always misses in anyone's career. It would have been great to see him against Maidana, Floyd, Khan, Cotto, Brook between 2012-15.

But here is the thing - there is no guarantee any of those fights would have been made had he gone in a different direction promotionally, signing with Top Rank guaranteed Pacquiao. Also Floyd is the only fight on that list which is bigger in terms of difficulty, legacy and financially. I am not sure 3 or 4 names off that list are better than 3 fights with Pacquiao and a fight with Marquez.

Another thing to consider is no boxer fights killer after killer, so even if he wasn't with Top Rank, he would have still had to have had Provodnikov, Vargas, Chaves, level fights between the Pac and Marquez level fights. Maybe that would have been a Guerrero or a Malignaggi instead of those guys.

In terms of the last point. I'm not sure what that means. There are fighters in the HOF who have not beat a HOFer or one near his prime. He fought two still near their best, and beat one, whilst remaining competitive with an ATG. In fact both Marquez and Pac are ATG's.

Constructive and well thought feedback! I like it. Thanks for your response fam. I agree with your points. He will get in probably on his third chance. I am not going to lie though. I keep forgetting about him time to time. I own his Marquez fight on bluray but it wasn't an classic. I think he's missing an classic fight. Maybe the one with Ruslan? Also for me I feel an fighter must beat an HOF level fighter to get in, I mean if he can't do that then idk he would have to rule a division for years. But that could be a reason why he kinda doesn't have an career defining win. I will give him the older Marquez.

[MisanthropicNY]

Who was two weight classes smaller and a decade older.

So age only matters after a loss? Rigo says he wants to fight at 126

Guess 4 pounds made all the difference.

[P4Pdunny]

just doing his job overselling the fight

[juggernaut666]

I saw the words Dibella and Dominate . I immediately thought of him waking up in a giant barn in the middle of nowhere with his hands tied behind his back with nothing on but a Hula skirt with a blond curly wig and purple lipstick smeared unevenly across his lips .

As he tries to run away dazed and confused by some fat 500 pound 7 feet tall hermaphrodite with no clothes except huge see through under wear , sporting a real pigs head weilding a a gigantic club with spikes and a Pina Colada in the other hand whos screaming " Dont cha want to get laid " as the Mardi Gras beads swing around "MINOPIGS " neck .

Just my 2 cents .