Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao, Crawford-Horn Double Would Be ESPN PPV

[Scipio2009]

I dont understand, what other fights on Espn have been announced? The Golden Boy fightson Espn are designed to showcase lower level talent. The only big cards espn has announced are the Valdez, Ramirez and Crawford fights, 2/3 of which you admitted were competitive. We dont know how well Crawford will do against a large welterweight like Horn. These are better fights than the garbage pbc fights. Garcia Lipinets didnt even sell 900 tickets and had to be canceled, Danny Garcia Rios isnt competitive at all. Espn has the best cards so far hands down

Horn-Corcoran, Lomachenko-Marriaga were mismatches, and Ramirez-Ahmed is another one of those matchups.

The sports book doesn't get it right all of the time, but the track record for sussing mismatches is pretty good.

Lipinets-Garcia is a more competitive fight than anything that Top Rank's announced so far, and it's not even close; Danny Garcia is clearly in a get-back fight, but the odds won't be anywhere near as wide as other fights.

[Scipio2009]

Stop with the PPV! Casuals will not buy it and true fans who grind an 9 to 5 are also not going to buy it. Really who would pay to watch an old pac man or horn? Leave PPV for Floyd or the heavyweights. Canelo is running out of opponents to fight for ppvs after GGG.

Wouldn't hold my breath on Canelo at this point, as he's basically been able to cultivate a PPV base of 400k-500k homes that'd pay to watch him blow over a broom if it disrespected Mexico enough.

Assuming he beats Golovkin for the WBA/IBF/IBO belts (the WBC heads over to the Charlo-Centeno winner), a fight with WBO champ Billy Joe Saunders is PPV, a fight against Daniel Jacobs is PPV, and I'm fairly certain that the Derevyanchenko mandatory defense could be finessed into being PPV as well (The Canelo Alvarez Show finally goes to New York, or some other tagline).

Given the 4 fights for 2018-2019, HBO has a bit of time to build the next challenger after that (Demetrius Andrade coming onto form would work).

[rrayvez]

Yeah, this falls under the category of not good enough for me to buy it as a ppv but I'll take time out to stream it and mirror it to my TV as opposed to just watching the stream on the laptop or my mobile device.

[Scipio2009]

Pacquiao is no longer PPV material, unless he's fighting someone great, which Arum doesn't have anyone great for him. Really the only way Pac makes PPV again is another rematch with Marquez.
Crawford/Horn isn't PPV material either.

Pac/Crawford could potentially be PPV, but I don't think the numbers would be that great...maybe 500K at most.

Pacquiao's not fighting for $2m, and it seems pretty clear that he's not heading back to Australia either (the only market that seems willing to put up the money for Pacquiao, since Arum seems to have screwed the Macau deal; rather than try to build on the relationship, Arum took the short money and dipped).

The only way that Pacquiao fights again is if he gets his guarantee, and the only way that Arum can get that money is if he's able to finesse ESPN into thinking that a Pacquiao fight, with Horn-Crawford as the chief support (Floyd ran his business differently, but he did come out of pocket at least $2.5m for Garcia-Matthysse, and was perfectly cool with it) is so big a fight that they should guarantee the purses for PPV, with Crawford-Pacquiao as hopefully the fight to deliver ESPN a feature attraction for three dates a year.

[Scipio2009]

whos gonna pay for pac vs mike alvarado

typical bottom rank

Folks are quiet now, but if the PPV card actually happens (Pacquiao-Alvarado in the main event, Horn-Crawford as chief support, two Top Rank prospects in 50:1 fights), the drumbeat on this site and others, defending the event, will build from the announcement until the hard sell of the event.

"Pacquiao fighting is still good for the sport, so you'd be dumb not to tune in", "Horn vs Crawford is an elite fight that folks should definitely watch", "the only way to make the money work was to go to PPV, so people should buy the card", "having Pacquiao and Crawford on the same bill will do wonders to build the hype for their PPV fight, so you should definitely buy this one too", and other nonsense.

Once the shills get going, the trolls here get the cover needed to do what they were going to do anyway.

[sicko]

NOBODY is buying Boxing PPV's Right Now Sorry! Because I don't think these current fighters have done enough to warrant the attention of the casual sports fan. I don't think even GGG vs Canelo 2 will do as good as the 1st Fight either

[chrisJS]

Just throw that **** on regular ESPN and Pacquaio's name alone will probably get 5m TV's tuned in and they will stick around for the main event see Crawford kick ass and he'll be must see TV for the people who watched and his profile will grow. Sure, you may lose money on this event but it's well worth the investment.

[Mammoth]

Jesus....

[ShoulderRoll]

**** it.

Let ESPN get a taste of some of that PPV money. Maybe then they will invest even more into boxing.

[j.razor]

I dont understand, what other fights on Espn have been announced? The Golden Boy fightson Espn are designed to showcase lower level talent. The only big cards espn has announced are the Valdez, Ramirez and Crawford fights, 2/3 of which you admitted were competitive. We dont know how well Crawford will do against a large welterweight like Horn. These are better fights than the garbage pbc fights. Garcia Lipinets didnt even sell 900 tickets and had to be canceled, Danny Garcia Rios isnt competitive at all. Espn has the best cards so far hands down

Stop lying, its a bad look for you. The ONLY thing you got right was that DSG vs Rios is not competitive.