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  • Snoop Frog
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    #131
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
    Pac by murder. Stop this shi1t, this is like GGG -Brook, Canelo -Khan, Lomo -Rigo..
    Man, I hope you're right. After seeing Pac not able to pull the trigger in his last fight, I'm worried about him getting murdered by Loma.

    I wish Pac would retire, invest his money, and live off his investments' passive income stream.

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    • chico malo ali
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      #132
      Loma would pick pac apart and then KO pacs midget azz into retirement!

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      • livershot73
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        #133
        WTF! So now Crawford vs Horn becomes part of a f u c ki ng PPV??!....

        Plus at this point, I feel Pac would get DeLaHoya'd by Loma....especially if he has to come down in weight

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        • Boxing Logic
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          #134
          Originally posted by Feint First
          Manny is being charitable even agreeing to go down to 140 for this hypejob instead of forcing him up to 147.

          If the clear B-side (Lomo) wants the biggest payday of his career by far, then let him come up to 140 and be weight bullied for a change and see how he likes it. Still more fair than the shyt he pulled with Rigo.
          "For a change"? Loma was weight bullied in only his 2nd pro fight, among other things, and didn't make a single excuse. Now stop crying you biased sore loser. Pacquiao said just a year ago that 135 is his real weight, that he has to eat artificially high amounts just to stay above 140. Manny would not even be one of the five biggest guys at 135 if he moved down. 135 has been his natural weight class all along, he just stayed at 147 and hurt his own career to make Arum more money. It would be an advantage for Pacquiao to have this fight at 135 where he can be faster, have better stamina, and fight much smaller opponents, not a disadvantage. Stop hating on Loma when all he did is accepted the fight you called for him to take against Rigo in the first place, outclassed Rigo, and then even tried to be respectful to Rigo afterwards by saying Rigo is still a king in his own weight class. Loma did everything exactly as you would want him to. Even took the crown off his head that his fitness coach put on after the fight. What more do you want? Y'all called him out, so he accepted, proved y'all wrong, but stayed respectful about it, and still gave Rigo props. So why are you still hating???? DAMN.

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          • Boxing Logic
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            #135
            Originally posted by Elotero
            Lol. Catchweight king strikes again. 48ers still rather watch the fraud Fight smaller guys than guys in his own weight class. The. Only 147 pounder who doesn't. Fight 147 pounders lmao. **** 48 and **** the 48ers.
            Because Pacquiao is not a real 147 pounder, dumbass. In this era true 147 pounders seem to naturally weigh 180 pounds. Pacquiao naturally weighs 145 at most. So Pacquiao is actually fighting 35 pound bigger men, naturally, and you saw that in the Jeff Horn fight. That's why Pacquiao down at 135 could surprise the hell out of everyone. Going from fighting way bigger men to suddenly fighting guys your own size, let alone even smaller guys like Loma, could have an insane effect. If this fight gets made, it means that Pacquiao is going from punching someone who is naturally 180 pounds at least if not 185, Jeff Horn, to punching someone who is naturally 140 at most. That's a 45 pound weight change in opponents, overnight. Those left hands that didn't do anything to Horn could spark Lomachenko out immediately with one shot.

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            • Boxing Logic
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              #136
              Originally posted by screwhead1
              Is no one finding this strange that pac seems to never want to bring up Crawford, yet, as soon as Loma steps on the scene, he’s willing to drop 15 lbs to fight a fight he’d likely be destroyed in? I don’t think pac can get a win over either, but Crawford is literally at the top while loma was seemingly pushed to the top by the media.
              Actually Loma is ranked higher on most P4P lists than Crawford. Loma has a string of high level substance wins vs guys like GRJ, Walters, and Rigo that have created a ton of hype for him, Crawford has none. It's not "the media" pushing Lomachenko, in fact his rise was delayed if anything by the boxing establishment screwing him vs Salido. He has had to overcome that, unlike Crawford, and yet he's still risen faster than Crawford NOT, again, because of "the media," which always prefers to push American boxers anyway (Floyd, Ward both got bigger pushes by both HBO and Showtime than any Eastern Euro has. Same with RJJ and many others), but because he has fought better opponents, and beaten them in a more unique, artistic way that has gotten people talking, the same way that Pacquiao and GGG's unique entertaining styles helped them become stars.

              As for why Pac would fight Loma and not Crawford, easy. It's a bigger, sexier, "fantasy matchup" type of fight, and instead of having to fight someone 35 pounds bigger than him, Pac would get to fight someone 5-10 pounds smaller than him. Instead of having to continue to fight in a weight class that is not natural for him, Pacquiao would finally be able to move back to his natural weight class 135. It's a win-win all around.

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              • Boxing Logic
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                #137
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Manny is a WW. Crawford just moved to WW. Loma is a LW. Which is the best fight to make?
                No, Pacquiao is not a WW. He is a lightweight, and not even a big lightweight, who has been fighting at WW against much bigger men, because during his prime, he was good enough to do that. Now that he's 39, he's not good enough to do that, so he either needs to move back down to his normal weight class, or retire.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Ajvar
                  Why would Loma want this fight at all, forget about full 2 dev. up? If it happens, it will be below 140. Pac is the one who wants and needs this fight.
                  Why would he want the fight at all? Are you serious?

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                    No, Pacquiao is not a WW. He is a lightweight, and not even a big lightweight, who has been fighting at WW against much bigger men, because during his prime, he was good enough to do that. Now that he's 39, he's not good enough to do that, so he either needs to move back down to his normal weight class, or retire.
                    Seriously, get your head examined. He is a WW, which is why every fight since 2009 has been fought @147 or above, except Cotto where Arum made cotto come in at 145.

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                    • Boxing Logic
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by My Low Place
                      maybe this speak to the uncertainty that ppl have in loma...this will be his 2nd 38 year old opponent in a row that hasnt won a fight in a year....and they'll both be weight manipulation fights....AND ppl that take this path tend to get exposed...
                      And yet you have been calling for Crawford, who is about the same age as Loma but way way bigger, to fight Pacquiao. Your double standards are just insane bro. If Pacquiao-Crawford was made yesterday, you wouldn't have even brought this stuff up. And somehow you try to spin that Loma fighting a smaller opponent, Rigo, because Rigo called him out, is the same as him fighting a way bigger opponent, Pacquiao. You try to gloss over the facts by putting both those in the category of "weight manipulation fights." In reality, Lomachenko would have to move up significantly to fight Pacquiao, so his weight is the one being manipulated. Pacquiao has naturally been a 135 all along, so Pacquiao doesn't have to manipulate anything, he just gets to finally fight at his own weight, against a smaller guy, for the first time in years and years. It's a huge advantage for Pacquiao, the opposite of the Rigo situation. In that one, Rigo moved up. In this one, Loma would have to move up, while Pacquiao would get to fight in his natural weight class again. Advantage Pacquiao.

                      Please stop hating bro. It's a bad look.

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