Who is the tougher opponent? Joseph Parker or Luis Ortiz?

[alexguiness]

Overall Ortiz.

If he was not middle aged he would certainly already be a World Champ.

He has more pure boxing ability than Joshua, Wilder and Parker put together.

Its the fact that he is well past physical prime that holds him back.

[Andre_parker1]

Ortiz more dangerous but parker is tougher.. physically..i don't think that old man can take too much hard shots to the head at this stage of his career

[ShoulderRoll]

I'll put it this way; I'd pick Ortiz over Parker if they fought.

So would I.

[Vinnykin]

Parker can go 12 rounds at a good pace, Ortiz visibly gasses and slows down halfway through a fight, so Parker is obviously better, stronger and has a much better engine, skills wise I'd go Ortiz, but hes only good for a few rounds and then can't apply those skills once he gasses.

A combination of the two would be the best boxer in the world, Ortiz skills and amateur background added to Parker's speed, power and stamina would be nearly unbeatable.

[mathed]

The NSAC was so concerned about Ortiz' high blood pressure that they almost called off the fight an hr before it was set to start. Great win against a 38....maybe 48 year old man who has been inactive and suffering from health problems.

Now just imagine 32 year old Wilder against 28 year old AJ who has an 82 inch reach and is the same height as Wilder. Yeah, Wilder best try to avoid the young buck for as long as he can.....the old man almost took him out.

[juggernaut666]

Parker can go 12 rounds at a good pace, Ortiz visibly gasses and slows down halfway through a fight, so Parker is obviously better, stronger and has a much better engine, skills wise I'd go Ortiz, but hes only good for a few rounds and then can't apply those skills once he gasses.

A combination of the two would be the best boxer in the world, Ortiz skills and amateur background added to Parker's speed, power and stamina would be nearly unbeatable.

Ortiz too old doe , Parker losing to Takam and Ruiz is by far better than an almost win over Wilder ? Along with some abysmal performances .


Cant apply skills in late rnd based on what fight / FIGHTS ? A 7th round dominance over Wilder ? lol
Take the L kid ...let it go and look at the poll.....this was even before the Wilder fight !

[Vinnykin]

Ortiz too old doe , Parker losing to Takam and Ruiz is by far better than an almost win over Wilder ? Along with some abysmal performances .


Cant apply skills in late rnd based on what fight / FIGHTS ? A 7th round dominance over Wilder ? lol
Take the L kid ...let it go and look at the poll.....this was even before the Wilder fight !

Could you imagine Ortiz vs the Takam that fought Parker, who had 3 months to prepare? Ortiz wouldn't be able to fight at that pace for 12 rounds, he would have to finish that in the first half, but we know Takam can move around and avoid a big puncher for 10 rounds if needed. Ortiz would be in danger in that fight, admit it, I wouldn't be confident that this Ortiz could go 12 rounds..... the same rule apply's for every fighter you can list in your top 10! Pulev has proven he can jab and move for 12 rounds easy, Ortiz would likely be outpointed there or even stopped once he slows down and gasses.

You have Ortiz in your top 3 going off nothing more than some fights from a few years ago! lol any one who had Ortiz in their top 3 after beating some bin man a few months ago and not fighting for a year needs their head tested.... go and see your doctor.

[juggernaut666]

Could you imagine Ortiz vs the Takam that fought Parker, who had 3 months to prepare? Ortiz wouldn't be able to fight at that pace for 12 rounds, he would have to finish that in the first half, but we know Takam can move around and avoid a big puncher for 10 rounds if needed. Ortiz would be in danger in that fight, admit it, I wouldn't be confident that this Ortiz could go 12 rounds..... the same rule apply's for every fighter you can list in your top 10! Pulev has proven he can jab and move for 12 rounds easy, Ortiz would likely be outpointed there or even stopped once he slows down and gasses.

You have Ortiz in your top 3 going off nothing more than some fights from a few years ago! lol any one who had Ortiz in their top 3 after beating some bin man a few months ago and not fighting for a year needs their head tested.... go and see your doctor.

Yea Ortiz would box circles around Takam ....the same slow plodding Takam who seemingly seemed disintested to engage Parker yet somehow landed more ? That Takam right ?

All your points are already proven fallacies through the actual fights themselves !

[Vinnykin]

Yea Ortiz would box circles around Takam ....the same slow plodding Takam who seemingly seemed disintested to engage Parker yet somehow landed more ? That Takam right ?

All your points are already proven fallacies through the actual fights themselves !

hahahahahaha you call Takam slow and plodding but Ortiz is not!!!!!!????? omg what the F are you watching! Takam was constantly in range and trying to land bombs on Parker, he was faster in the 12th than Ortiz was in the 5th!

Go and watch the fight again and check your bias, your agenda here is clear. Takam was constantly in range and throwing against Parker, there were rounds he was literally standing on his chest and constantly working inside.... I'm telling you now that Ortiz has never proven he can fight at that pace, Ortiz gassed fighting at his own pace with hardly anything coming back, if he took the pressure that Takam put on Parker he would be gassed in 4 rounds! and he would never have survived what Takam threw at Parker in the 12th EVER!

[juggernaut666]

hahahahahaha you call Takam slow and plodding but Ortiz is not!!!!!!????? omg what the F are you watching! Takam was constantly in range and trying to land bombs on Parker, he was faster in the 12th than Ortiz was in the 5th!

Go and watch the fight again and check your bias, your agenda here is clear. Takam was constantly in range and throwing against Parker, there were rounds he was literally standing on his chest and constantly working inside.... I'm telling you now that Ortiz has never proven he can fight at that pace, Ortiz gassed fighting at his own pace with hardly anything coming back, if he took the pressure that Takam put on Parker he would be gassed in 4 rounds! and he would never have survived what Takam threw at Parker in the 12th EVER!

Takam was slow and plodding against Parker , yet landed more giving up height and activity !

Takam wouldn't put pressure on Ortiz bc he would be physically dominated and countered by a bigger , harder hitting HW ! Taking punches from Wilder would and did prove that anyone not named Wilder or Joshua are going to have their hands full as i said they would !


"Ortiz is old and finished as a boxer, face facts, it's not 2106 man. " You dont deal in facts as much as you do SPECULATION ..... your quote here once again reinforces that ! lol


"just admit you don't know what Ortiz has as he hasn't fought a decent opponent in over 2 years. " Seems like i DID know ? What a shocker ,right bc we both know it is me whos been proven wrong thus far between us ?


"nah mate,you're done if you think Ortiz is on a good run or can even claim to think he would beat Whyte. ortiz is 70 years old! he hasn't fought in 3 years! "