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  • D4thincarnation
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    #471
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    No it is clear you don't believe Floyd. I believe he was dehydrated. USADA believed he was dehydrated. NSAC believed he was dehydrated.

    When you become a doctor then I wiil consider your medical opinion valid. Until thn, it is just words from a disgruntled fan.

    NSAC didn't believe Manny because they knew he was lying.

    There was no USADA doctor their. Just a doping control officer and Floyd's medical team.

    How is it possible for Floyd to be dehydrated?

    All I am asking is how is it possible?

    It it is not possible then could never be.

    It is simple logic.

    Just come up a reason which would explain his sever dehydration.

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      #472
      More troubling than USADA’s fee structure are the accommodations that it seems to have made for clients who either pay more for its services or use USADA on a regular basis. The case of Erik Morales, who has held world titles in three weight divisions, is an example.

      Under standard sports drug testing protocols, when blood or urine is taken from an athlete, it is divided into an “A” and “B” sample. The “A” sample is tested first. If it tests negative, end of story; the athlete has tested “clean.” If, however, the “A” sample tests positive, the athlete has the right to demand that the “B” sample be tested. If the “B” sample tests negative, the athlete is presumed to be clean. But if the “B” sample also tests positive, the first positive finding is confirmed and the athlete then has a problem.

      In 2012, Erik Morales was promoted by Golden Boy, which, as earlier noted, was under the leadership of Richard Schaefer. Golden Boy was the lead promoter for an Oct. 20 fight card at Barclays Center in Brooklyn that was to be headlined by Morales vs Danny Garcia.

      On Thursday, Oct. 18, 2012, the website Halestorm Sports reported that Morales had tested positive for a banned substance. Thereafter, Golden Boy and USADA engaged in damage control.

      Dan Rafael of ESPN.com spoke with two sources and wrote, “The reason the fight has not been called off, according to one of the sources, is because Morales’ ‘A’ sample tested positive but the results of the ‘B’ sample test likely won’t be available until after the fight. ‘[USADA] said it could be a false positive,’ one of the sources with knowledge of the disclosure said.”


      Questions surround drug testing for Mayweather-Pacquiao and other bouts



      Further proof of USADA being corrupt in boxing, allowing PED using boxers to compete.

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #473
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        More troubling than USADA’s fee structure are the accommodations that it seems to have made for clients who either pay more for its services or use USADA on a regular basis. The case of Erik Morales, who has held world titles in three weight divisions, is an example.

        Under standard sports drug testing protocols, when blood or urine is taken from an athlete, it is divided into an “A” and “B” sample. The “A” sample is tested first. If it tests negative, end of story; the athlete has tested “clean.” If, however, the “A” sample tests positive, the athlete has the right to demand that the “B” sample be tested. If the “B” sample tests negative, the athlete is presumed to be clean. But if the “B” sample also tests positive, the first positive finding is confirmed and the athlete then has a problem.

        In 2012, Erik Morales was promoted by Golden Boy, which, as earlier noted, was under the leadership of Richard Schaefer. Golden Boy was the lead promoter for an Oct. 20 fight card at Barclays Center in Brooklyn that was to be headlined by Morales vs Danny Garcia.

        On Thursday, Oct. 18, 2012, the website Halestorm Sports reported that Morales had tested positive for a banned substance. Thereafter, Golden Boy and USADA engaged in damage control.

        Dan Rafael of ESPN.com spoke with two sources and wrote, “The reason the fight has not been called off, according to one of the sources, is because Morales’ ‘A’ sample tested positive but the results of the ‘B’ sample test likely won’t be available until after the fight. ‘[USADA] said it could be a false positive,’ one of the sources with knowledge of the disclosure said.”


        Questions surround drug testing for Mayweather-Pacquiao and other bouts



        Further proof of USADA being corrupt in boxing, allowing PED using boxers to compete.
        You're using articles that have been proven incorrect in the USADA reply to Hauser. You probably know this. But are just trolling for replies. You obviously don't care about actually knowing the facts, because when presented with them you ignore them. What we do know and what you have shown is even if you're trolling, you don't know what you're talking about.


        HW's dehydrating to get in shape.

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          #474
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          More troubling than USADA’s fee structure are the accommodations that it seems to have made for clients who either pay more for its services or use USADA on a regular basis. The case of Erik Morales, who has held world titles in three weight divisions, is an example.

          Under standard sports drug testing protocols, when blood or urine is taken from an athlete, it is divided into an “A” and “B” sample. The “A” sample is tested first. If it tests negative, end of story; the athlete has tested “clean.” If, however, the “A” sample tests positive, the athlete has the right to demand that the “B” sample be tested. If the “B” sample tests negative, the athlete is presumed to be clean. But if the “B” sample also tests positive, the first positive finding is confirmed and the athlete then has a problem.

          In 2012, Erik Morales was promoted by Golden Boy, which, as earlier noted, was under the leadership of Richard Schaefer. Golden Boy was the lead promoter for an Oct. 20 fight card at Barclays Center in Brooklyn that was to be headlined by Morales vs Danny Garcia.

          On Thursday, Oct. 18, 2012, the website Halestorm Sports reported that Morales had tested positive for a banned substance. Thereafter, Golden Boy and USADA engaged in damage control.

          Dan Rafael of ESPN.com spoke with two sources and wrote, “The reason the fight has not been called off, according to one of the sources, is because Morales’ ‘A’ sample tested positive but the results of the ‘B’ sample test likely won’t be available until after the fight. ‘[USADA] said it could be a false positive,’ one of the sources with knowledge of the disclosure said.”


          Questions surround drug testing for Mayweather-Pacquiao and other bouts



          Further proof of USADA being corrupt in boxing, allowing PED using boxers to compete.

          What is the proof in question?

          Doenst the B sample always comes out way later?

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          • D4thincarnation
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            #475
            Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
            What is the proof in question?

            Doenst the B sample always comes out way later?
            Garcia was shocked at the commission, USADA et al allowing the fight to happen.



            “That was the whole reason we did the testing so if someone tests positive for anything we ain’t going to fight,” Danny said. “So when the commission said ’Ok’ I was like ‘Damn, so it don’t even matter. Like . . . testing don’t even matter sometimes.”



            After the Friday weigh-in, Morales told ****** "I just spoke to USADA, which is something that I don’t have to tell you guys, but I’m going to tell you this. I just got a call from USADA, and they said that I don’t have to worry and that everything is okay. Everything is okay. You’re not guilty until we prove that you are guilty, and the commission already has accepted the fight, so the fight is on."



            On Friday February 8, 2013, USADA sent an email, obtained by Maxboxing.com, regarded Morales’s urine samples #1546299, collected October 3, 2012 and #1546300 collected on October 10, 2012–both labeled “Out of Competition”- were found to be in violation of the World Anti-Agency (WADA) code. The Executive Directors of New Jersey, New York, California and Nevada, as well as Golden Boy Promotions’ David Itskowitch and Julien Sieveking of WADA were all cc’d in the email. A USADA review board has determined that USADA’s adjudication process begin immediately.



            “USADA charges you with an anti-doping rule violation for the presence of Clenbuterol in your urine samples,” USADA’s email to Morales states.



            “You have agreed to abide by the Code and the Protocol,” the email states, “and that any positive test result(s) from a Sample provided by you would be managed pursuant to the Protocol, which has been previously been provided to you. Accordingly, you are subject to the following sanction for your first anti-doping violation:



            · Up to a two (2) year period of ineligibility as described in Article 10.2 of the Code, beginning on the day you accept a sanction, fail to request a hearing or fail to respond, or the date of the hearing in this matter, from participation in any activity or competition organized by or under the au****es of any signatory to the Code or any member of the signatory, including ineligibility from in or coaching in Olympic Pan American, or Paralympic Games Trials, or being a member of any Olympic, Pan American or Paralympic Team.; and



            · Disqualification of the competitive results obtained subsequent to October 3, 2012, the date your urine sample #1546299 was collected and, including forfeiture of any medals, points, and prizes consistent with Article 10.1 of the Code.”



            Morales was doping, but USADA allowed him to fight?
            Why?
            Money.

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #476
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              You're using articles that have been proven incorrect in the USADA reply to Hauser. You probably know this. But are just trolling for replies. You obviously don't care about actually knowing the facts, because when presented with them you ignore them. What we do know and what you have shown is even if you're trolling, you don't know what you're talking about.


              HW's dehydrating to get in shape.
              Explain to me How Floyd got dehydrated.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #477
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                There was no USADA doctor their. Just a doping control officer and Floyd's medical team.

                How is it possible for Floyd to be dehydrated?

                All I am asking is how is it possible?

                It it is not possible then could never be.

                It is simple logic.

                Just come up a reason which would explain his sever dehydration.
                It has been explained to you by other posters. whenever it is, you pretend you didn't see it. You want to believe Floyd was on PED's, ok, go ahead. No one can make you change how you think.

                All we can do is point out the real reason why you think he cheated-it isn't the IV, the time off, or anything else its because he beat Manny so soundly.

                Now, why did Manny keep refusing to test?
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-17-2018, 03:32 PM.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #478
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  Explain to me How Floyd got dehydrated.
                  Waste of effort explaining anything. You ignore it. You're arguing things in this thread what i've seen people explain to you numerous times in the past. You're trolling.

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                    #479
                    innocent until proven guilty...enough with the silly threads.. speculations of the past only gives birth to more specualtons

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                    • D4thincarnation
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                      #480
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Waste of effort explaining anything. You ignore it. You're arguing things in this thread what i've seen people explain to you numerous times in the past. You're trolling.
                      Exactly there is no explanation because he wasn't.

                      He just used the IV to mask his PED use

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