What "evidence" is there Pacquaio is on roids?

[travestyny]

No they don't, they have even said they test tactically.

OMG dude. Come on. You are smarter than this.


The dates that they come are tactical. The samples that they get (yes all of them) are CIR tested.


This isn't rocket science!

[travestyny]

Unless he was 160lbs + against Pacquiao in the ring.

But where did he gain all this extra muscle mass from.

When he fought Canelo he was 150lbs in the ring was he?

How heavy in the ring do you think he was against Pacquiao?

He was around 149 in the ring with Pacquiao according to him.

Which makes sense if you look at all of his rehydration weights that are available.


I have a gif of him dehydrated during the Mosley camp, but for some reason it doesn't seem to be showing up.

[travestyny]

You know a lot of people work at the lab. Not working for USADA or WADA?

None of them work for USADA or WADA. They work for the lab.


Again, I don't see what your point is. The lab is independent. Why would they work for USADA or WADA? They follow WADA guidelines.

[D4thincarnation]

Pacquiao taking blood tests.

Takes the day of training

[D4thincarnation]

None of them work for USADA or WADA. They work for the lab.


Again, I don't see what your point is. The lab is independent. Why would they work for USADA or WADA? They follow WADA guidelines.

Not for the VADA sample, they follow VADA guidelines.

[D4thincarnation]

He was around 149 in the ring with Pacquiao according to him.

Which makes sense if you look at all of his rehydration weights that are available.


I have a gif of him dehydrated during the Mosley camp, but for some reason it doesn't seem to be showing up.

So how could he possibly be dehydrated if he was weighing in at 147lbs just a few hour before he became dehydrated?

[travestyny]

So how could he possibly be dehydrated if he was weighing in at 147lbs just a few hour before he became dehydrated?

Because maybe you don't understand dehydration.

It's odd to say that a professional boxer who has to weigh in below a certain limit should not be dehydrated. You don't know at what point the dehydration took place during camp or if he was allowed to recover from the dehydration before the weigh in.

De La Hoya, for example, weighed in vs. Pac at 145 and rehydrated to 147. According to you, he shouldn't have been dehydrated.

[D4thincarnation]

Because maybe you don't understand dehydration.

It's odd to say that a professional boxer who has to weigh in below a certain limit should not be dehydrated. You don't know at what point the dehydration took place during camp or if he was allowed to recover from the dehydration before the weigh in.

De La Hoya, for example, weighed in vs. Pac at 145 and rehydrated to 147. According to you, he shouldn't have been dehydrated.

Unless there was a re-hydration clause?

Do you think Oscar had a re-hydration clause?

Do you think Floyd had one?


Do you think Floyd should have been 160lbs in the ring, was that his walking around weight?

You do know how much 2 pints of water weighs don't you?

[travestyny]

Unless there was a re-hydration clause?

Do you think Oscar had a re-hydration clause?

Do you think Floyd had one?


Do you think Floyd should have been 160lbs in the ring, was that his walking around weight?

You do know how much 2 pints of water weighs don't you?

I have no idea what you are trying to get at here. The point I'm making is that we don't know when the dehydration first occurred, unless you are an expert on Floyd's body.


By the way, here he is dehydrated for the Mosley bout.




According to you, that should never happen!

[AllBoxingAD]

1)He did have the negotiating power with Floyd, the split was 50/50

Floyd turned down extra testing including blood testing from NSAC


2) Watch the episode, its on YouTube

3) Kizer said he would be happy to carry out the tests if the boxers requested them


4) It shouldn't be up to the athletes for testing altogether.
The cheats will always be ahead of the game, and drugs are going to be left behind soon with gene manipulation and designer babies.

It won't be long now till the a world boxing champions will be bred

1) With his power he asked Floyd to pay 10 mill for every lbs over 147. Floyd said yes. I guess he wasnt scared to fail that test huh?
That is also not a commission rule. So Im asking again, where was Manny's regard for commission rules when he had the power?

2) Send me a link. I got a blood test coming up in a few weeks too. If you guys dont see me back on the board after that, you'll know I didnt make it.

3) VADA's testing protocol does NOT include tests schedualed by the athletes. Period end of. The idea itself is ridiculous and a red flag. Again, how gullible are we supposed to be?

4) Since we agree that testing should be left up to the pros, I have to question the athletes who run away from these pros.