Comments Thread For: Photos: Luis Ortiz Training in Beast Mode For Deontay Wilder

[BendOver]

Birth cert? You do know that many people from countries like Cuba often lie about their age because they don’t have berth certs.. Until about 20 years ago people in Cuba were writing their date of birth on sea shells and rocks which they often lost so they forgot their birth date.

It’s common for people from places like Cuba to change their age so it has nothing to do with Ortiz personally, it’s just a known fact Cubans are known to change their age. Why does it make AJ look better if Ortiz is old? You make no sense. See you guys love to say Vlad was old but the moment someone says Ortiz is old you get emotional.. Even if you believe he’s 38 like he says he is.. 38 isn’t young. In the mind of Wilder fanboys he’s younger than his official age lol.

I'm calling you on that. They have to surrender their birth certificate the first time they put a foot on a gym, baseball field, chess club or any organize sport. And when and if they make the National team their age is well documented. So don't spread the lies... You can find one that fell through the cracks but that is not the norm...

[NahMean]

I'm calling you on that. They have to surrender their birth certificate the first time they put a foot on a gym, baseball field, chess club or any organize sport. And when and if they make the National team their age is well documented. So don't spread the lies... You can find one that fell through the cracks but that is not the norm...

Like I said, until 20 years ago berth certs were written on objects. If you know anyone from Cuba or other third world countries you'd know this. They can apply for a paper cert but that information if it dates back to before paper cert were handed out is not on record and the onus is on the person to provide the information which can be made up. Its really not hard to get a fake berth cert in third world counties, you just need to pay.

[Raggamuffin]

Birth cert? You do know that many people from countries like Cuba often lie about their age because they don’t have berth certs.. Until about 20 years ago people in Cuba were writing their date of birth on sea shells and rocks which they often lost so they forgot their birth date.

It’s common for people from places like Cuba to change their age so it has nothing to do with Ortiz personally, it’s just a known fact Cubans are known to change their age. Why does it make AJ look better if Ortiz is old? You make no sense. See you guys love to say Vlad was old but the moment someone says Ortiz is old you get emotional.. Even if you believe he’s 38 like he says he is.. 38 isn’t young. In the mind of Wilder fanboys he’s younger than his official age lol.

Did you even bother to read what you wrote, lmao. Do you even see what you're doing? It's embarrassing, lmao. And then we see your signature......and lol, and you expect us to consider what you post on wilder Ortiz? Hahahahahahahaha lol...

I'll take my chances that Ortiz is a 38 year old undefeated bum who Wilder will get rid of rather than consider what your take on the matter is lol.

[NahMean]

Did you even bother to read what you wrote, lmao. Do you even see what you're doing? It's embarrassing, lmao. And then we see your signature......and lol, and you expect us to consider what you post on wilder Ortiz? Hahahahahahahaha lol...

I'll take my chances that Ortiz is a 38 year old undefeated bum who Wilder will get rid of rather than consider what your take on the matter is lol.

[theface07]

he looks roided AF

Please explain. All you can see are biceps and triceps and there is no clear evidence of juicing. What are you basing this on and do you have and an ulterior motive for accusing him of juicing? If Ortiz wins are you going to say he was juiced to the gills to discredit the win?
After testing positive before they were originally supposed to fight, do you really think Ortiz would risk doing it again for his biggest and possibly last payday?

[New England]

I'm calling you on that. They have to surrender their birth certificate the first time they put a foot on a gym, baseball field, chess club or any organize sport. And when and if they make the National team their age is well documented. So don't spread the lies... You can find one that fell through the cracks but that is not the norm...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/feb/21/nigerian-football-age-old-problem

https://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/top-15-athletes-who-lied-about-their-age/

it's actually pretty common. these stories i found are from most of hte major sports in the world. some are older stories, most are not! nothing a little bit of money can't take care of in a third world country. and you guessed it, lots of Caribbean athletes.

manut bol was supposedly 50 when he was in the national basketball league

[BendOver]

Like I said, until 20 years ago berth certs were written on objects. If you know anyone from Cuba or other third world countries you'd know this. They can apply for a paper cert but that information if it dates back to before paper cert were handed out is not on record and the onus is on the person to provide the information which can be made up. Its really not hard to get a berth cert in third world counties, you just need to pay.

You are a liar, am 62 years old and I have my birth certificate sent to me. And it is certified. they always are. Written on and object. Gtfo with those lies. I played baseball in Cuba and I make the team when I was 14 years old. I have to present my birth certificate along with my grades. It was a kid that we knew was pass the age and he got caught altering his. You don't know $h1t. Even in rural places the church or the mayor records the births.

[BendOver]

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ge-old-problem

https://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/top-15-athletes-who-lied-about-their-age/

it's actually pretty common. these stories i found are from most of hte major sports in the world. some are older stories, most are not! nothing a little bit of money can't take care of in a third world country. and you guessed it, lots of Caribbean athletes.

manut bol was supposedly 50 when he was in the national basketball league

Haven't seen a Cuban. You show me colon and a guy from soccer. Where is the Cuban? It was common in DR, they even swap the certificates with their cousins, a least it was documented, fausto cardona is the one I remembered. No Cubans. I know some ppl here can't differentiate from a Cuban to a mexican or Portorican from a Venezuelan. But believe me we have different cultures.

[New England]

Haven't seen a Cuban. You show me colon and a guy from soccer. Where is the Cuban? It was common in DR, they even swap the certificates with their cousins, a least it was documented, fausto cardona is the one I remembered. No Cubans. I know some ppl here can't differentiate from a Cuban to a mexican or Portorican from a Venezuelan. But believe me we have different cultures.

i showed you dozens of athletes, but i see you didn't read the articles .

so a cuban can't trade his birth certificate for his cousin's, but a dominican can?

cuba is a third world country. ortiz birth certificate would be decades old and a paper document.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/international/mlb-punishes-cuban-shortstop-aledmys-diaz-for-false-age/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/la-lied-about-beltres-age/

first article is about birth certificates of cubans fudged in either direction. one guy wanted to appear younger so he looked a better prospect. he other wanted to appear older so he could get signed. both guys had the same handlers, which to me indicates a possible pattern of handlers inside and outside of the country incentivizing and helping players doctor birth certificates.


second article is about a dominican primarily, but also includes a paragraph about two more cubans from the era who were ineligible after it was found that they were not the ages the were reputed to be.

[_Rexy_]

Man you guys are exaggerating the age thing, dude looks maybe 40 tops.

be real....40 for a black dude?

not even close. Guy is at least 80