Which current Heavyweight champion is most legitimate?

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  • joebloggs789
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    #41
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Parker is irrelevant. The WBO heavyweight title has never been considered equal to the others.

    Wilder has the most prestigious belt, but Joshua has the WBA and the IBF, so you have to consider him the most legitimate heavyweight champion.
    "Prestigious belt?" Don't be that guy... the only status what matters is lineal the other belts are all trinkets in comparison

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    • SthPaw
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      #42
      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
      None yet. They are all about the same level.
      True. They all have it all to lose, gain and prove...All just as much as the other. None of them have a true and firm ground on which to base an argument that states their claim to the division.

      They all have a foot in the door, but no one owns the room yet.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #43
        Originally posted by SthPaw
        True. They all have it all to lose, gain and prove...All just as much as the other. None of them have a true and firm ground on which to base an argument that states their claim to the division.

        They all have a foot in the door, but no one owns the room yet.
        Well put. Let's see who stands in the end.

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        • P.K Dionysus
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          #44
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          Well put. Let's see who stands in the end.
          I'm personally rooting for AJ. Been a fan of his since he turned pro.

          Who are you personally backing?

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            #45
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Why are you blatantly lying? This account is operated by three people who happen to have experience dealing with sanctioning bodies. None of us work for them, each of us just happens to have a friendly relationship with one of the sanctioning body presidents, which is why we created this account to answer questions about the sanctioning bodies.

            We've been researching the sanctioning bodies for several decades and your quick google search is unlikely going to give you the grasp of the history and nuance that we have, but we're happy to read what your limited research has turned up.




            Technically true, but extremely misleading because even if you want to judge things based on the current WBC/WBA initials, the WBC title is still older. The first WBC heavyweight champion was Sonny Liston in 1963. The first WBA heavyweight champion was Ernie Terrell in 1965.

            If you try to stretch things back to the NBA, then it's only fair to also stretch things back to the NSC, IBU & NYSAC, in which case the WBC title is still older. Not only older, but essentially a merger of all of the major world titles except for the NBA, which was never as big as the NYSAC anyway.




            And the NBA sanctioned wrestling as well. All the state commissions regulated wrestling back then. What's your point?




            You're just reading wikipedia without any understanding of the situation. The WBC was a true coalition of countries from around the world joining together to create a true world championship. The EBU, BBBoC, NYSAC and countless others joining forces to all agree on one champion. There are only so many titles now because the WBA keeps getting divorced. The WBC is still the same title it's always been. Now you have to unify the WBA/IBF/WBO to actually hold the NBA lineage, whereas the WBC is all you need to hold the IBU/NYSAC/NSC/etc lineage. There's no comparison.
            oh man this forum and its users never fail to entertain

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            • BoxingIsGreat
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              #46
              Originally posted by P.K Dionysus
              I'm personally rooting for AJ. Been a fan of his since he turned pro.

              Who are you personally backing?
              No one. That's the beauty of it! When you are not invested in a fight, you can enjoy it a little more. I'm not interested in the division at all, to be honest.

              I think they are about the same level. Parker being the weak link, IMO. With a gun to my head, I'd say Joshua comes on top!

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              • P.K Dionysus
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                #47
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                No one. That's the beauty of it! When you are not invested in a fight, you can enjoy it a little more. I'm not interested in the division at all, to be honest.

                I think they are about the same level. Parker being the weak link, IMO. With a gun to my head, I'd say Joshua comes on top!
                This is true.

                Although when you are invested, if your dude wins, that **** makes your day, and depending on whether it was Mayweather fighting, your whole damn week, at least in my case.

                What's your fav division if you don't get a hard on for the HW division?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by P.K Dionysus
                  This is true.

                  Although when you are invested, if your dude wins, that **** makes your day, and depending on whether it was Mayweather fighting, your whole damn week, at least in my case.

                  What's your fav division if you don't get a hard on for the HW division?
                  I agree there.

                  I don't have a favorite division but favorite fighters. I pay attention when the guys/girl in my sig are/is fighting. Right now I'm big on those.

                  Yours?

                  [If you name any division, I'm sure I could tell you at least one fighter that I like, except the heavyweight.]

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                  • P.K Dionysus
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    I agree there.

                    I don't have a favorite division but favorite fighters. I pay attention when the guys/girl in my sig are/is fighting. Right now I'm big on those.

                    Yours?

                    [If you name any division, I'm sure I could tell you at least one fighter that I like, except the heavyweight.]
                    You and I have a very similar outlook in terms of following fighters, not divisions. And because I'm a lover of technical boxers/counter punchers over brawlers or front foot/pressure fighters, that's who I always tend to root for if I don't even know the names of the dudes fighting.

                    So no fav divisions, but fav fighters.

                    You have a pretty dope list of favs yourself.

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                    • BoxingIsGreat
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by P.K Dionysus
                      You and I have a very similar outlook in terms of following fighters, not divisions. And because I'm a lover of technical boxers/counter punchers over brawlers or front foot/pressure fighters, that's who I always tend to root for if I don't even know the names of the dudes fighting.

                      So no fav divisions, but fav fighters.

                      You have a pretty dope list of favs yourself.
                      Thanks, bro.

                      The guy I'm most big on is Oleksandr Usyk. I REALLY want him to succeed the most on that list. Reason: He has pretty amazing and beautiful skills for a guy his size, seems like a cool guy, and should be paid accordingly. I'm guessing he's making peanuts, disproportionate to his talent and skills.

                      Good Eastern Euros, as well as others from less economically developed countries, don't have the resources and the packing as some of the others on my list do. I always root for people like that, unless they are hyped to the moon without merit. Then I'm gone. Lol...

                      Pay the man, pay him the millions!
                      Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 01-14-2018, 01:06 PM.

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