Realistically, when will Spence fight Crawford/Thurman??

[brettWall]

most likely never, unless crawford realizes he shouldn't continue to sign exclusive promotional agreements with a promoter that has no access to the best welterweights.

Or you could also say if Spence is having a hard time getting fights inside PBC, there's no sense in talking about fighters from other promotional outfit.

Or you could also say unless Spence leaves Haymon and gets tired of being put on the shelf with no fault of his own.

[Pigeons]

If it was up to Spence? In 8 weeks.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Or you could also say if Spence is having a hard time getting fights inside PBC, there's no sense in talking about fighters from other promotional outfit.

Or you could also say unless Spence leaves Haymon and gets tired of being put on the shelf with no fault of his own.

You are right. It doesn't go just one way. PBC has no vision.

[jqSide]

...when will Spence...

Probably when one or the other is no longer in his prime, or suffered orbital bone injury.

[brettWall]

Probably when one or the other is no longer in his prime, or suffered orbital bone injury.

It's possible Peterson could be healthier than the Brook Spence fought. Who knows?

[N/A]

Or you could also say if Spence is having a hard time getting fights inside PBC, there's no sense in talking about fighters from other promotional outfit.

How is he having a hard time getting fights? He won his first world title in his last fight and is now the A-side in the main event of a Showtime Championship Boxing card at Barclays center against another world champion who just vacated to face him.

If he's successful, there are numerous prominent fighters in his weight class that share the same manager that he'll be able to fight for years to come, including a WBC/WBA/IBF unification fight. The only fighter he won't have access to is (soon to be) WBOgus champ Crawford. Crawford will have to hide behind that belt for a long time while Spence will have the opportunity to fight for all of the other titles.

Or you could also say unless Spence leaves Haymon and gets tired of being put on the shelf with no fault of his own.

He's not leaving Haymon. Haymon has every potential prominent opponent except for Crawford.

[brettWall]

He's not leaving Haymon. Haymon has every potential prominent opponent except for Crawford.

"Potential" is nonsensical when the fights he wants don't get made.

Why do you even talk about Crawford when you just said in another thread the story should end when fighters have different promoters? Because it suits you this time, eh?

loma is promoted by top rank and exclusive to espn.

tank is promoted by mayweather and exclusive to pbc.

the end.

[N/A]

"Potential" is nonsensical when the fights he wants don't get made.

Spence wants the champions. He got IBF champion Kell Brook and knocked him out. Now he's getting WBA champion Lamont Peterson (although he's had to vacate to take the fight). Next year he'll likely get WBC & Super WBA champion Keith Thurman (or whoever holds those titles).

There's no other manager or promoter on planet Earth that could deliver Spence more opportunities at welterweight than Al Haymon.

Why do you even talk about Crawford when you just said in another thread the story should end when fighters have different promoters? Because it suits you this time, eh?

Hahahah no because I was specifically asked about Crawford. Maybe you should actually read the thread?

[R_Walken]

I know, bro.

Been following boxing for almost 20 years. Now a heavy disinterest is setting in day by day. Maybe, as a fan, I might last until the end of this year. If nothing interesting happens, I will say goodbye to boxing.

Gone are the days of Vargas-Trinidad, PBF-Corrales, Barrera-Morales, Toney-Jirov, prime Roy Jones, Sergio Martinez, Hamed, and Pacquiao, etc.

These days, you can't even get something like Canelo-Charlo-Saunders or GGG-Charlo-Saunders.

Yep.. Very depressing!

You realize all the fights you listed didn't happen all at once it was a couple year span. The same can be said in the last 3 years there's been

GGg/Canelo
Canelo / Cotto
May / PAC
The Cruiserweight SBSS winner
Thurman / Garcia
LSC / Frampton

That's the problem with boxing fans they romanticize the past too much instead of appreciating what here now. There may not be a prime Roy Jones fighting now but there's Prime Crawford , Spence , Canelo , AJ/ wilder , Loma maybe the Charlios all great fighters writing their legacys now

You are right. It doesn't go just one way. PBC has no vision.

This is so wrong , the plan to unify a new WW champ has been years in the making since probably before May / PAC

I remember watching a Mayweather PPV I forget which one and they interviewed like Garcia , Thurman , Porter or something like that planting seeds to the viewers about setting up a true WW champ. I remember watching that like last year and realizing this plan has been in place years before the fans even figured it out.

Letting it build slow for me is a better model anyway compared to the UFC where they just throw a top fighter against each other. It doesn't give time for fans to get behind guys in their way up and constantly putting their fighters against elites shortens their career and that why the UFC is lacking in stars right now because they don't marinate enough


Obviously there's a fine line but you want to build these fights up and that takes time

[brettWall]

Spence wants the champions. He got IBF champion Kell Brook and knocked him out. Now he's getting WBA champion Lamont Peterson (although he's had to vacate to take the fight). Next year he'll likely get WBC & Super WBA champion Keith Thurman (or whoever holds those titles).

There's no other manager or promoter on planet Earth that could deliver Spence more opportunities at welterweight than Al Haymon.

Last I checked, Spence wanted to fight in August in his hometown in Texas last year. What the hell happened?

Hahahah no because I was specifically asked about Crawford. Maybe you should actually read the thread?

Then why don't you just say

Crawford is promoted by Arum.

Spence is promoted by Haymon.

The end?

Whoops. You're scared for Tank, but not for Spence. I know. Cold wars are instant excuses when it fits the argument. Hehe...

loma is promoted by top rank and exclusive to espn.

tank is promoted by mayweather and exclusive to pbc.

the end.

Defending Haymon is futile doe.