Is Lomachenko the fastest and most athletic white boxer ever?

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  • Blu
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    #71
    Sergio Martinez is the most athletic white boxer.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #72
      Originally posted by The D3vil
      LMAO, are you listening to yourself, the "youngest 37 year old to ever step in a ring" Are you serious?

      Dude 37, is 37. Yeah, it's best to have not taken tons of beatings, but there's no such being in your prime as an athlete at 37, especially when you're a smaller boxer.

      If that was the case, boxing would be full of guys who just got started at age 30 & now are in their primes at 40.



      No, he became faded when he became 37 years old, just like virtually every other athlete in the history of the world.

      Most athletes are retired by 37.
      Tough fights age you faster than birthdays. Hence the reason certain fighters are shot by their mid to late thirties while others still have a lot left in the tank. Rigo never had tough fights. So he is a young 37. Hopkins didn't see his biggest wins until after the age of 37.

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      • Tony Trick-Pony
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        #73
        Willie Pep probably holds this title and it ain't going anywhere.

        The man had 230 wins.

        Just can't top that.

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        • Tankdestroyer
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          #74
          Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
          He's not white doe
          so is he now one of the kangz n'sheit

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          • The D3vil
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            #75
            Originally posted by considerthis
            I was just ball busting. Somehow ggg is still at his absolute peak at 35 doe...
            Hey, I always argue against people saying this.

            My stance is that GGG is not in his prime anymore and people claiming that his "decline" is just because he's facing better competition are being disingenous

            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
            Tough fights age you faster than birthdays. Hence the reason certain fighters are shot by their mid to late thirties while others still have a lot left in the tank. Rigo never had tough fights. So he is a young 37. Hopkins didn't see his biggest wins until after the age of 37.
            Bernard Hopkins is called "The Alien" because no one's ever done what he's done before

            There's a reason pro athletes don't start at 35.

            We dont look at the NBA, NFL, MLB and see a bunch of dudes just getting started at 35.

            Birthdays matter. The human body has a peak and once you pass that peak, you're generally in decline.

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            • TonyGe
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              #76
              Originally posted by WarHagler
              Willie Pep
              I wish there were more film of the old fighters available.

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              • GhostofDempsey
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                #77
                Originally posted by The D3vil
                Hey, I always argue against people saying this.

                My stance is that GGG is not in his prime anymore and people claiming that his "decline" is just because he's facing better competition are being disingenous



                Bernard Hopkins is called "The Alien" because no one's ever done what he's done before

                There's a reason pro athletes don't start at 35.

                We dont look at the NBA, NFL, MLB and see a bunch of dudes just getting started at 35.

                Birthdays matter. The human body has a peak and once you pass that peak, you're generally in decline.
                I didn't say age doesn't matter, but different fighters age differently. Hopkins got off to a late start and didn't have an amateur career outside of his prison fights.

                Rigo wasn't in any life and death battles that would have aged him beyond his 37 years. He is a very well-preserved 37 is what I am saying.

                De La Hoya retired at age 35, and he was an old 35 when he retired, having been in several tough wars with Mosley, Pac, Hopkins, etc. Those fights aged him prematurely.

                Floyd remained fresh at 40 because he was never in any knock down drag out fights of his 50 fights, so he remained a young 40, compared to say Pac, who is two years younger but aged quicker from tough fights.

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                • The D3vil
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  I didn't say age doesn't matter, but different fighters age differently. Hopkins got off to a late start and didn't have an amateur career outside of his prison fights.

                  Rigo wasn't in any life and death battles that would have aged him beyond his 37 years. He is a very well-preserved 37 is what I am saying.

                  De La Hoya retired at age 35, and he was an old 35 when he retired, having been in several tough wars with Mosley, Pac, Hopkins, etc. Those fights aged him prematurely.

                  Floyd remained fresh at 40 because he was never in any knock down drag out fights of his 50 fights, so he remained a young 40, compared to say Pac, who is two years younger but aged quicker from tough fights.
                  And Mayweather & Hopkins are freaks of nature who took exceptional care of their bodies.

                  To expect anybody to be like that is like expecting NFL quarterbacks to be good at 40 just because Tom Brady & Peyton Manning did it.

                  Yes, wars can help to speed up decline, but there's also the natural decline that comes in the mid to late 30s for most people, regardless of their style or their sport even. It happens in every sport

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #79
                    We still asking these weird a$$ racial questions in 2018. I remember this sh^t from 1999 in Yahoo Boxing.

                    D- trolling.

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                    • A-Wolf
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                      #80
                      Sad. Lomachenko is one of the most athletic boxers ever regardless of race. The "White" thing has no place here or anywhere. Fastest? Most explosive? That's a completely different discussion but there are few guys who are/were as physically gifted as he. Without a doubt Lomachenko is one of the most ambidextrous, balanced, controlled boxers I've ever seen - in transition, in the middle of the chaos. He's frighteningly athletic with impressive speed.

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