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  • Sir_Didymus
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    #71
    Originally posted by Randall Cunning
    I think Khans going to be chief support. Hes been saying for a while his next fight will be at the end of March. I couldnt work it out as theres 2 Matchroom cards at the end of March and I would never have believed he would sign with Hearn.
    Yes if it's true Khan is the perfect foil for Joshua pre main event or even as a dual headlining act.

    I'm still not believing it until it's official because everything is like happening at the same time with all relevant parties making announcements at the same time and people don't realise how shrewd Khan is with making money.

    He knows how to make the right moves financially so it could realistically be Khan just timing his announcement to coincide with Hearn and Joshua or it could be that he's now a part of the Matchroom stable.

    Either way Khan has done his job. He's got everyone talking. Now all that's left to see is if the shock is real. If it's Matchroom...most folks will see it as a big shock. I will anyway.

    Personally still expecting to see a deal with Warren/BoxNation or ITV and a mediocre fighter for a tune-up which he really needs. Ring rust is real.

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    • robbyheartbaby
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      #72
      Well Brook is fighting at 154 now so they both blew the chance to have a history making fight the twats. Instead fighting middleweights and getting KTFO! Who has the bigger d*** now?! Khan is pretty damn good but let's see how he performs in his return. Brook will no doubt do well at 154 but Khan is a fool for not making that fight.

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      • Tygshsu
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        #73
        Originally posted by Sir_Didymus
        That is how the British are they support or hate someone enough to financially support them as long as it gives them the desired satisfaction. That's why all the money is in the UK. The transition from diehard football fans to casual boxing fans is an easy one for most of them. They fill out stadiums on a regular basis for far smaller events.

        This is also why the Yanks envy the British support. You can be just a decent boxer and still make a decent living here as long as you don't throw it all away before your career has even began i.e O'Hara Davies.

        Also what does it matter if someone has lost or been knocked out or if a title is on the line or not? Not everyone can be a Mayweather/Calzaghe etc.

        They're not paying to watch a "Loser's Final". They're paying to watch a grudge match. The British love grudge matches.

        See Kaylor vs Christie, Lewis vs Bruno, Froch vs Groves which wasn't even much of a grudge, Degale vs Groves, Haye vs Chisora, Haye vs Audley, Bellew vs Haye, Quigg vs Frampton, Joshua vs Whyte, Whyte vs Chisora etc. Even the very small event of O'Hara Davies vs Josh Taylor was well watched and anticipated here.

        Khan vs Brook is more hate filled, fuelled more than any of the above fights and has been for over a decade for us but a lifetime for them because their rivalry goes back to the amateur days when Khan was selected ahead of Brook to represent Britain at the Olympics because Brook was deemed as the lesser talent so was demoted to sparring partner. Khan qualified as the ONLY boxer from Britain. Came back with a medal. Helped bring back funding to boxing. Became poster boy. Brook became salty. Still is.

        It's a bigger grudge match than Hatton vs Witter ever could have been and that never happened with Hatton being Khans position and Witter in Brooks. To understand why this is is important...Khan is from the same region as Hatton, Lancashire. Brook is from the same region as Witter, Yorkshire. Same gym as Witter with the Ingles.

        There are still people around who were disappointed they never got to see Hatton vs Witter so by default all of those folks automatically want Khan vs Brook to happen on top of all the casuals, hardcore boxing fans, haters alike...

        You're seriously underestimating what sporting rivalries and personal rivalries in the public domain mean to us in the UK. It's huge and the Americans just can't fathom why it is which is funny.
        Why do you keep mentioning Americans for.What have they got to do with this.It stinks of jealously and bitterness.Americans care about elite talent not average talent they support World Class Fighters not Average ones like we do.They dont envy at us,they laugh at us.Brook and Khan are doing this for the money they are not giving the fans back anything,their is no gurantee it will be a entertaining fight.It's just two average,damaged fighters who were well beaten by North American Boxers and are now back in Britain for a Loser's Clash.British Public are so small minded and guillable,Support dont win you anything,it's just a bunch of drunk english fans mixed in with Women who know nothing about Boxing.Americans dont stand for Medicority,We do.

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        • Sir_Didymus
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          #74
          Originally posted by Tygshsu
          Why do you keep mentioning Americans for.What have they got to do with this.It stinks of jealously and bitterness.Americans care about elite talent not average talent they support World Class Fighters not Average ones like we do.They dont envy at us,they laugh at us.Brook and Khan are doing this for the money they are not giving the fans back anything,their is no gurantee it will be a entertaining fight.It's just two average,damaged fighters who were well beaten by North American Boxers and are now back in Britain for a Loser's Clash.British Public are so small minded and guillable,Support dont win you anything,it's just a bunch of drunk english fans mixed in with Women who know nothing about Boxing.Americans dont stand for Medicority,We do.
          I mention Americans because it's true. They can't comprehend how big this fight is and how big it will always be no matter how many losses, knockouts they suffer or how many times they bend the knee.

          Americans care about elite talents? Americans don't care about American boxers at all. That's the point.

          Why else do you think American boxers like Wilder and the Charlos keep crying about a lack of support? Why else do you think boxers like Garcia, Thurman, Porter, Broner, Bradley, even Spence have a very very small following online in comparison to someone like Khan?

          Americans would rather support Eastern Europeans. I wonder why.

          The most supported boxers in America are Latino and the one previous to that just fought a UFC fighter in a circus act against a rabbit puncher.

          The support doesn't win you anything? O...K. It's prize fighting. Let me know who is the richest out of all of those boxers. I'll wait.

          We don't stand for mediocrity either. That's why we booed Kell Brook out of his hometown and put him and Hearn in tears. We also ragged on him for QUITTING and not activating the rematch clause.

          We do however, as mentioned, love grudge matches in all sports.

          The fact you don't understand this means you aren't British or are a self loathing Brit.

          From our Football derbies to our Snooker rivalries...

          WE LOVE GRUDGE MATCHES.

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          • boliodogs
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            #75
            I can understand him taking time off after Canelo almost knocked his head off but almost two years off is way too long. I don't think Khan likes to fight much anymore. I look for his comeback fight to be a cherry pick.I doubt he ever tries to avenge his losses to Prescott, Peterson or Garcia. Will he agree to fight Brook at 154? I doubt it. Will he ever be a world champion again? I doubt it.

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            • Sir_Didymus
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              #76
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              I can understand him taking time off after Canelo almost knocked his head off but almost two years off is way too long. I don't think Khan likes to fight much anymore. I look for his comeback fight to be a cherry pick.I doubt he ever tries to avenge his losses to Prescott, Peterson or Garcia. Will he agree to fight Brook at 154? I doubt it. Will he ever be a world champion again? I doubt it.
              If it's a fair fight it would have to be a catchweight.

              Most likely it won't happen unless it's 147lb as Khan has stated and as Brook has stated he'd make 147lb for the right fight.

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              • BigStomps
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                #77
                Originally posted by Sir_Didymus
                Cash out with Brook? He doesn't need to cash out with anyone. He's made his fortune. He could retire now and be financially comfortable.

                It's the other way around. Always has been. Always will be. Brook needs Khan more than Khan needs Brook financially.

                Like I said if this news is true, which it may well not be, it just means that Brook is the end game and Khan has already secured financial incentives to sign with Hearn.

                I still don't think it's true because I think Matchroom will announce Joshua vs Parker tomorrow and I feel Khan has inside knowledge on this so he's basically timed his announcement to perfection.

                If it is Matchroom then it is, as Khan promised, a shock.
                I can tell your a Khan fan so that's why your quick to put Khan on a pedestal but I'm not.
                Regardless if he's financially secured for life he might as well add more money to his account by fighting Brook. That's his biggest pay day. Khan isn't good enough to compete with the top welterweights and I don't ever see him winning another title. So the only positive thing I see him getting at this time is a huge pay day VS Brook. It'll be a good fight and I have my money on Brook.

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                • Randall Cunning
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Sir_Didymus
                  If it's a fair fight it would have to be a catchweight.

                  Most likely it won't happen unless it's 147lb as Khan has stated and as Brook has stated he'd make 147lb for the right fight.
                  Id imagine the plan is for Brook to go for Ali's WBO after Rabchenko, and for that to be on the line at a catchweight of some sort. Hard negotiating over every lb.

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                  • Sir_Didymus
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by BigStomps
                    I can tell your a Khan fan so that's why your quick to put Khan on a pedestal but I'm not.
                    Regardless if he's financially secured for life he might as well add more money to his account by fighting Brook. That's his biggest pay day. Khan isn't good enough to compete with the top welterweights and I don't ever see him winning another title. So the only positive thing I see him getting at this time is a huge pay day VS Brook. It'll be a good fight and I have my money on Brook.
                    I've always said I like Khan and respect him as a boxer. As a person, not so much. I even said that in this very thread.

                    So the truth is putting someone on a pedestal is it? It's no secret, son, that Khan is the bigger name, has always been the A side if this fight is ever made and always will be. That on top of the fact for Khan to work with Hearn, logically speaking...would require a huge incentive and the only incentive in boxing is money and titles. No titles so it's obviously money. Logic.

                    Fan? Calm down pal. I've hardly ever put a penny in his pockets. I have, however, put a lot in Kell Brooks pocket being from Sheffield and whatnot going to a lot of his fights with my kids hoping he'd actually amount to something other than a flat track bully beating on mediocre boxers without ever truly challenging himself unless it was his last meal ticket.

                    Don't worry, pal. If I was a betting man my money would be on Brook too. Far too big for Khan. The weight disparity is huge. Suspect chin on Khan. The gulf in skill, however, there's not much of a gulf. They're pretty even.

                    The question is why are you so angry at me stating a fact that every man and his Dog is aware of the fact Kell Brook has always needed Khan? Khan does not need Brook. Why did that irritate and anger you so much? Is it not true? Have I been seeing a Kell Brook doppelganger with his bowl out and with the Oliver Twist routine for the last decade?

                    Ahh, I get it. You must be a fanboy of our dear QUITTER. Figures.

                    Anyway like I said all of this could just be another well timed scheme by Khan to get back into the limelight and may have nothing to do with Matchroom or Brook. We'll find out tomorrow.

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                    • Sir_Didymus
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                      Id imagine the plan is for Brook to go for Ali's WBO after Rabchenko, and for that to be on the line at a catchweight of some sort. Hard negotiating over every lb.
                      That's probably the best way for Brook to make sure the fight is 50/50.

                      Hearn isn't the most loyal person out there so if I was Brook I'd get some assurances from Hearn if this story about Khan joining Matchroom turns out to be true.

                      Brook was just interviewed earlier claiming he'd love to have the rematch with Spence. Trying to get relevance. He had a rematch clause. He did not activate it. Who is advising Brook to say crap like this?

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