Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia: Mikey's Too Big to Fight Lomachenko Right Now

[TonyGe]

Mikey is much bigger than Lomo. Can't see this fight happening if Lomo has other options that pay well.

[JWHardin]

It is obvious Arum hates MG. He said Loma might just skip to 140 to get some competition when he thought Mikey would be staying at 135. He said Loma would absolutely destroy MG. He definitely doesn't want that fight to happen.

They are the same height, and think MG actually started at a lower weight. Good fight, and I am thinking MG would win in a very competitive contest.

[Shadoww702]

Well, OT
Here’s what Bivol’s manager Kornilov said to ******.com on the VADA testing for the Barrera fight:

“No problem at all from our side! We were thinking of doing VADA testing initially, as I do with all my fighters like Ruslan, Viktor Postol, etc. Then the representatives of Barrera said that they are in the Clean Boxing Program with the WBC anyway, and they don’t want to pay anything extra for a specific VADA testing protocol. We are ready to do it and we have already sent in our VADA enrollment form for Bivol to VADA!”

Any thoughts?

If your in VADA your in VADA. There is no extra tests unless you miss or fail them.

[Boxing Logic]

Didn't you see another Mickey article yesterday saying Linares is his last fight at 135?
It's not even about willingness to, but follow orders from WXYX.
Has nothing to do with Loma's readyness.
Mickey wants to stay at 140 and want no part of 135, end of story.
Strange part is he himself is the one calling out these fights and only to say no later.
This Mickey is a very confused individual.
He needs another 2 years break to sort things out.

Who is WXYX?

[MrShakeAndBake]

Didn't Loma start mentioning Mikey after his fight with Sosa? Mikey told him to move up and fight a 135 fighter to acclimate to the weight. What does Loma do? Stay at 130 and brings up 2 fighters to his weight to fight. Mikey told him in person face to face, when he's ready to move up. Loma could have moved up n fought Beltran last year. But Mikey is making excuses lol

what about piece of rat **** Rigo, he wanted to fight Loma. that would of make allot of f@got Rigo fans upset thinking Loma is ducking Rigo. see you cant win.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Lomachenko has stated that he wanted to turn pro much sooner than he did but he when he asked his dad what was more important, world championships or Olympic gold his father said Olympic gold.

The guy has so much respect for his father he has a tatoo on his body of his dad's face and has stated that he will never let anyone else train him and take credit for his father's hard work.

But nah, none of you guys seem to know this because you're all just super casuals with fragile egos. You only want to defend your favorites and ****, boxers of your own skin color which is pathetic as ****.

In my opinion who's ducking who? Loma seems genuinely interested in fighting the best. On the other hand Mikey only cares about the money.

That answers your question right there.

You can ***** and moan about who lost to who, and who cherry picked who, but these are legit facts to the **** I read in this dumb ass thread.

Loma was set to fight Salido but he pulled out so he was replaced with a readily available marriaga who is FAR better than the first 25 Mikey fought.

Mikey just like most boxers have a huge list of bums. Loma isn't excluded, but 10 world championship fights? That's not even CLOSE.

He lost to Salido 4 years ago. One loss. People who ***** a out anything other than a 0 in the loss column doesn't know ****. All of the BEST boxers fought for the sport and have La. All except mayweather and guess what, just like Mikey only fights for the money, and two, look at his promotional techniques. He's protecting his assets, JUST LIKE MIKEY, so he can get big pay days.

I'm not saying Mikey isn't good. But his motivation is questionable. He doesn't want to fight the best, just look the best.

Don't kid yourselves.

[filup79]

what about piece of rat **** Rigo, he wanted to fight Loma. that would of make allot of f@got Rigo fans upset thinking Loma is ducking Rigo. see you cant win.

Loma could have moved up after Sosa when he was mentioning Mikey. Mikey went up to Loma in the studio when they were having separate interviews. Mikey told him he has to move up, what did Loma do? Stay at 130 and bring up another fighter to fight at 130

[TarasMarcenko]

Exactly

Pretty much! That's how casual fans are. Neither ONE is ducking the other. You and I both know this... The "ducking" word is code talk for casual, don't know sht about boxing fans.

I couldn't agree more. I have the highest respect for Mikey and and Robert Garcia. And for Loma. I don't see either ducking each other. That has been clear to me for a few years now. It just didn't work out. But both often mentioned before and after fights that this is one fight they both want. Timing just wasn't there and now that Mikey is taking the biggest challenge, bigger than facing Loma, with Spence I got to give him major props. And wish him the best of luck. Spence is a really likable personality and is a superb long limbed, great timing boxer. With some sneaky power. Mikey has great timing but I don't think he can go up two weights and do it. Even with all his added power for this fight. It's just very, very hard to accomplish what he's trying to do. If he wins he is my PVP. If Loma takes on Tank (who's ducking Loma) and Lopez, who's yapping his lips a lot, but has faced who? If Loma takes on those two and maybe Comey. In the next year and half, then he regains PVP, in my honest opinion. But a Mikey and Loma fight. I think Mikey wins. The weight difference is too much. Much like I feel about Mikey fighting Spence. Robert Garcia isn't lying, he does like Loma and recognizes his skills. Garcia is one very cool dude. Going back for years he is balanced and composed. So I believe him when he comments on his perspective. Mikey is much the same way. Composed and very likable. Mikey has that great timing. Skill wise, Loma is more polished. That's something the Robert recognizes. It's something special about Loma, maybe it's just the training with avantguard approaches since he was a baby. But, Mikey has been raised on boxing too. Just Loma has taken it from or was taken from a different paradigm and you get what you get. He's probably not a superior athlete. He's a great athlete but probably not superior to other great athletes, so it's the boxing skill (mental and IQ and muscle memory from all the hard work and large experience; 396 amateur bouts). But he's honed the best of himself or the best of him has been honed to try to be the perfect fighter. Every fight he sees flaws in himself and is humble about that and aims to learn and improve. He is a perfectionist with himself. That much is extremely obvious. He's not a one punch knock out artist. He's the beautiful to watch boxer than leaves those with boxing IQs thrilled and catching their breath. He's really that good with what he does best.

[Santa_]

I couldn't agree more. I have the highest respect for Mikey and and Robert Garcia. And for Loma. I don't see either ducking each other. That has been clear to me for a few years now. It just didn't work out. But both often mentioned before and after fights that this is one fight they both want. Timing just wasn't there and now that Mikey is taking the biggest challenge, bigger than facing Loma, with Spence I got to give him major props. And wish him the best of luck. Spence is a really likable personality and is a superb long limbed, great timing boxer. With some sneaky power. Mikey has great timing but I don't think he can go up two weights and do it. Even with all his added power for this fight. It's just very, very hard to accomplish what he's trying to do. If he wins he is my PVP. If Loma takes on Tank (who's ducking Loma) and Lopez, who's yapping his lips a lot, but has faced who? If Loma takes on those two and maybe Comey. In the next year and half, then he regains PVP, in my honest opinion. But a Mikey and Loma fight. I think Mikey wins. The weight difference is too much. Much like I feel about Mikey fighting Spence. Robert Garcia isn't lying, he does like Loma and recognizes his skills. Garcia is one very cool dude. Going back for years he is balanced and composed. So I believe him when he comments on his perspective. Mikey is much the same way. Composed and very likable. Mikey has that great timing. Skill wise, Loma is more polished. That's something the Robert recognizes. It's something special about Loma, maybe it's just the training with avantguard approaches since he was a baby. But, Mikey has been raised on boxing too. Just Loma has taken it from or was taken from a different paradigm and you get what you get. He's probably not a superior athlete. He's a great athlete but probably not superior to other great athletes, so it's the boxing skill (mental and IQ and muscle memory from all the hard work and large experience; 396 amateur bouts). But he's honed the best of himself or the best of him has been honed to try to be the perfect fighter. Every fight he sees flaws in himself and is humble about that and aims to learn and improve. He is a perfectionist with himself. That much is extremely obvious. He's not a one punch knock out artist. He's the beautiful to watch boxer than leaves those with boxing IQs thrilled and catching their breath. He's really that good with what he does best.

[TarasMarcenko]

Loma is the number one PVP for a reason and he deserves it

Lomachenko has stated that he wanted to turn pro much sooner than he did but he when he asked his dad what was more important, world championships or Olympic gold his father said Olympic gold.

The guy has so much respect for his father he has a tatoo on his body of his dad's face and has stated that he will never let anyone else train him and take credit for his father's hard work.

But nah, none of you guys seem to know this because you're all just super casuals with fragile egos. You only want to defend your favorites and ****, boxers of your own skin color which is pathetic as ****.

In my opinion who's ducking who? Loma seems genuinely interested in fighting the best. On the other hand Mikey only cares about the money.

That answers your question right there.

You can ***** and moan about who lost to who, and who cherry picked who, but these are legit facts to the **** I read in this dumb ass thread.

Loma was set to fight Salido but he pulled out so he was replaced with a readily available marriaga who is FAR better than the first 25 Mikey fought.

Mikey just like most boxers have a huge list of bums. Loma isn't excluded, but 10 world championship fights? That's not even CLOSE.

He lost to Salido 4 years ago. One loss. People who ***** a out anything other than a 0 in the loss column doesn't know ****. All of the BEST boxers fought for the sport and have La. All except mayweather and guess what, just like Mikey only fights for the money, and two, look at his promotional techniques. He's protecting his assets, JUST LIKE MIKEY, so he can get big pay days.

I'm not saying Mikey isn't good. But his motivation is questionable. He doesn't want to fight the best, just look the best.

Don't kid yourselves.

Very astute comments and all backed by Loma's history and context and understanding that those who are in the know have come to independently. Loma had one goal when younger, to win Gold at the Olympics. And when he asked his dad what was more prestigious, world title or Olympics, his dad told him Olympics, thus Loma went again for his second Olympic Gold. Clean as a whistle in heavily tested Olympics. Once he got his second Gold, only then did him and his father look at the future as a pro. It was never about the money, but what did he want to accomplish now. And now, it was don't **** around but go for the throat immediately. Unify and fight only the best. With his pedigree in the amateurs and Olympics he wasn't going to **** around with his goal. For the ass ****s who call anyone not in Vada on peds, that means Mayweather and all other boxers of the past should all be called peds, PedWeather, etc. Cause vada didn't even exist back then.
Guilty by this logic, all of them? Loma has had a perfect clean record and is registered on the Vada website. With Vada he was randomly tested before the Rigo fight and before the Linares fight and Pedrazza fight. And was randomly tested for his other fights because he is top 15. It is mandatory to be tested when in top 15. Vada isn't the only organization out there who tests. Let's see, is Tank on the Vada website? I didn't see him. All those first round knock outs. That's a candidate for 'oids. Loma is all about angles, and skill. And his mind exercises and dexterity exercises and lung exercises under water are unique in the game. He's the total clean and honorable package. With sweat and effort to improve after every fight. He sees the inperfection in himself after every fight. And strives to improve himself each time. He's not the egotistical prick with hyperbolic comments of many boxers who claim they are the best. He proves it in the ring and respects other boxers, including the legends like Manny and Floyd and Ali and Jones and Tyson. He consistently stays grounded and doesn't play loud mouth game so many others play, or the poor me game, ala Tank and his 'I should be PVP'. Tank ducks the best. He gets what he deserves. Zilch. Fight Loma, fight Lopez, fight Comey, fight Mikey, then you'll make the list. Half a dozen other boxers Tank needs to fight before he is legitimized. Look at the records of Loma's first 13 opponents compared to Tank's first 13. Tank is laughable.