Vasyl Lomachenko's weakness: lacking / limited defence and footwork?

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  • brettWall
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    #41
    Since when did these brothas started liking a face-first come forward fighter over a sweet science guy? What the hell happened to the hit and not get hit mantra doe?

    Fake fans. LOL.

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    • TonyGe
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      #42
      Originally posted by Tony2.0
      You are correct, IN SOME ALTERNATE UNIVERSE WHERE BEING A 2 TIME GOLD MEDALIST WITH SOME 400 WINS 1 LOSS GETTING HIT A FOOT BELOW THE WAIST REPEATEDLY BY A CHEATING, OVERWEIGHT BILLYGOAT IMPERSONATOR MEANS YOU HAVE HORRENDOUS DEFENSIVE SKILLS, you are correct. But in this universe, Lomachenko has the ability to avoid every punch if he wanted to. But to appease the clowns who call him a hype, he stands in the pocket and dodges punches like a prime Whitaker. His weakness, at least in the Salido fight, was what pretty much all the best amateur stars who go pro, struggle with, IN-FIGHTING. That’s why Duran beat Leonard, why Floyd struggled with Cotto, why Rigondeaux struggled with Cordoba. These guys are so used to boxing on the outside, they struggle in close quarters. In fighting is an art, boxing on the outside is an art, only seen a few special fighters who could do both well. Ray Robinson for 1, and Mike McCallum are the 2 i think of.
      Duran and Hagler could fight from both inside and outside and Leonard surprised me against Duran with his inside skills.

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      • Ganondorf
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        #43
        Yeah, Troll. Loma's footwork is absolutely disgusting! Haha

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          #44
          Originally posted by No punch power
          As exposed against Orlando Salido, his atrocious footwork and defence was exposed to be exactly that, horrendous.

          He showed no defensive skills other than his one dimensional excessive clinching. In other words, his defence is severely limited and one dimensional. Particularly against boxers who are pressure fighters stylistically and have some of the best punch resistance in boxing like Orlando Salido.

          Against Orlando Salido, Lomachenko failed to use his footwork to evade Orlando Salido like how the great Manny Pacquiao was able to against the much bigger and better Antonio Margarito. In other words, exposing how one dimensional, limited and overrated Lomachenko's foot work is. Particularly against such type of opponents.

          Against Orlando Salido, Lomachenko also failed to use other defensive moves outside of offootwork. Such as blocking punches whilst standing skill, or rolling punches whilst standing still, or using head movement to evade punches whilst standing still. Like how Floyd Mayweather Jr was able to do against Canelo Alvarez whilst standing with his back against the ropes. At times, the much bigger and better Canelo Alvarez (compared to Lomachenko's god, master and his soul taker Orlando Salido) was unable to land any punches on Mayweather, despite throwing entire combinations.

          There isn't a boxer with more overrated footwork and defence in the history of this beautiful sport. Lomachenko is one dimensional and Salido proved just that. The only thing he was forced to resort to was clinching because he has no answers to such a type of opponent defensively. He doesn't have enough versatility in his repertoire to adjust / adapt to such an opponent outside of clinching. When he faces another boxer that is a pressure fighter stylistically with one of the best chins in boxing, he'll get exposed once again like the pathetic fraud that he is.

          Lomachenko is a stiff robot! He'll never be better than Pacquiao or Mayweather. Both have astronomically better footwork and defence and they didn't need shtty and crappy Ukrainian dance classes to achieve their abilities.

          Everything about Lomachenko is flashy and flamboyant. In reality, if one looks past those irrelevant flashiness and flamboyancy, the guy is nothing special and is less skilled than Mikey Garcia. Lomachenko really doesn't possess any special effect, just like how Golovkin doesn't.

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          • Zaroku
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            #45
            Originally posted by oscar9992
            Vasyl has the best footwork in decades!

            Limited? Ya ******ed!


            Also he is compubox Plus/Minus leader...
            I was impressed with his footwork and his punch selection.
            Rigo looked too small to push Loma back very much..

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #46
              Lmaooo


              Defense may not be his strong suit

              But footwork?

              Ffs he has amazing footwork, he glides in and out so smooth it’s like loma has ice skates on

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                #47
                I would say Lomachenko has the best footwork of any fighter today & his style will usher in a wave of copycats..

                Even if you dislike him that's gotta be the last part of his boxing you'd criticize. His opponents spend most of the fight struggling with his lateral slips.

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                • Warrior Scholar
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                  #48
                  One thing he does that I like, is his fast step to the side and open up with a lead hook, then a power hook, on the opponents blind side. It's usually the opponents left, I believe, as he's southpaw. so, he jabs, and then moves his head all the way to the right and pivots, shoots the weight and places his feet to where they land in stance, then, BOMB with the lead hook, followed by the right.

                  When I practice the technique, I find most of my error is when I'm landing in stance, transferring the weight to my left hook...I am orthodox so I just do it backwards, I've had success with it, but it's nothing you wanna do more than once in a fight.

                  Watching him in combat doing that gives me inspiration for jumping rope.

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                  • Warrior Scholar
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ////
                    I would say Lomachenko has the best footwork of any fighter today & his style will usher in a wave of copycats..

                    Even if you dislike him that's gotta be the last part of his boxing you'd criticize. His opponents spend most of the fight struggling with his lateral slips.
                    He views the jump rope and the pain associated with said training the way an alcoholic or drug addict views their next drink or fix. Seems to really enjoy his training.

                    He's so good, I bet he microdoses

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                    • KillaCamNZ
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by No punch power
                      As exposed against Orlando Salido, his atrocious footwork and defence was exposed to be exactly that, horrendous.

                      He showed no defensive skills other than his one dimensional excessive clinching. In other words, his defence is severely limited and one dimensional.
                      The only thing atrocious and horrendous is the way you construct sentences. Bloody hell.

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