Has there ever been a boxer who is as scared of another boxer as Golovkin is of Ward?

[Mr Objecitivity]

ya..most super mws are terrified of the klitschkos....

but are most MW champs terrified of super MW champs? are most super MW champs terrified of LHW champs?

Don't give me that nonsensical excuse. You're the one telling the other user to be consistent. Well then, how about you also remain consistent?

How about you remain consistent and also criticize Andre Ward for not moving up to heavyweight just like how you're criticizing Golovkin for not moving up in weight?

Chris Byrd managed it, and proved how great he is (will always be a greater boxer than Andre Ward). So how about you criticize Ward like you criticize Golovkin?

[Curt Henning]

Don't give me that nonsensical excuse. You're the one telling the other user to be consistent. Well then, how about you also remain consistent?

How about you remain consistent and also criticize Andre Ward for not moving up to heavyweight just like how you're criticizing Golovkin for not moving up in weight?

Chris Byrd managed it, and proved how great he is (will always be a greater boxer than Andre Ward). So how about you criticize Ward like you criticize Golovkin?

criticise ward for what? winning a super 6 tourney...then coming back and beating the #1 guy a division north who was unbeaten and top 5 p4p rated? for making the rematch next after people thought his first win was controversial?

yeah lemme criticize ward for that!

lemme guess you are one of those clowns that says "ward said 160 for floyd" right?....even though floyd said "i wont ever fight at 160 everyone has limits thats too high for me"=which relegates any talk of a fight at 160 to pure fantasy

golovkin actually pursued fights with lesser fighters at 168 "ill fight a guy ward beat or a guy who smokes weed and drinks beer during his training camps...but not ward".....thats a glaring, obvious, difference...that somehow you need to reach and try to equate

how many super MWs you see challenging for the HW title?

now how many 160 guys you see competing at 168? now many 168 guys you see competing at 175? its all really simple....but the uber fanboy in you cant acknowledge it.....

still waiting for that day you use "objectivity" to defend ward, cotto, floyd or canelo.....i know your mother will sprout wings and fly first....but im still waiting on that day you pathetic gimp

[stealthradon]

lol...beterbiev won a vacant belt against a guy named enrico kolling....whats ur point? how exactly did bivol attain his title? LOL....ur a clown

why did lara have to move up? what did gabe rosado have to do to get a fight with golovkin? how about brook?

lara was considered the #1 guy a division below...all he had to do is say "i want to fight you" and it would have made sense......#1 guy at 154 vs #160.....

golovkin simply wasnt interested because lara is a spoiler that he couldnt easily find and might not make him look like the destroyer that guys like stevens, wade and lemiuex did.....we all know

#1 guy at 154 and #168 golovkin ducked.....but he was ok with fighting kell brooks and gabe rosados and JCC jrs.....

charlo is every bit as deserving of a golovkin shot if you think bivol and beterbiev deserve a shot at ward...in fact hes probably more deserving given golovkins weak resume....bivol and beterbiev have as many pro fights as ward combined

just try to be consistent....you know guys are saying "charlo dont deserve a fight with golovkin he hasnt done anything"

WTF would you say beterbiev and bivol have done to earn a shot at 33 year old guy with over 30 pro fights and several very good scalps and titles in two divisons? won interim titles and fought for vacant belts? LOL

Yeah, it was because GGG was scared, not because Lara is on Showtime. You do know this, right?
Or are you just making shít up again?
You know the reason why he fought Brook. Because Eubank forgot his pen.
This has been explained to you so many times.
Why the fúck are you still telling the same fúcking story, despite you know it isn't true?

[Curt Henning]

Yeah, it was because GGG was scared, not because Lara is on Showtime. You do know this, right?
Or are you just making shít up again?
You know the reason why he fought Brook. Because Eubank forgot his pen.
This has been explained to you so many times.
Why the fúck are you still telling the same fúcking story, despite you know it isn't true?

lara was not contractually obligated to showtime...he fought on a fight by fight basis...he even made this extremely clear.....but because loeffler made the excuse "lara fights on showtime"....you suckers bought another one of his BS lies cause he knows fools like you yuck it up.....lara came out and made it clear he had no actual contract with showtime

"It's well known that Gennady Golovkin - when he fights in the United States - is under exclusive contract with HBO. Lara is with Golden Boy and fights on Showtime. So while he is a great fighter for whom we have a tremendous amount of respect, the bottom line is that HBO is our biggest strategic partner and it's up to his promoter to get him accepted by HBO"

how did khan fight on showtime and then go to an HBO fight with canelo? hmmm.....haymons guys arent contractually obligated to showtime and can go fight wherever if the right fight presents itself...did u hear loeffler say "lara is contractually obligated to showtime"? nope...cause he wasnt......but loeffler knew HBO wouldnt accept a lara fight because its not a stand in front of you make you look good fight for the guy they were trying to build as a KO machine

"eubank forgot his pen"...eubank didnt forget anything...thats the lamest thing ive ever heard "eubank forgot the pen"....when u dont get a signature from "plan A" by a certain point you move on to plan B.....its k2s fault for waiting so long with no signature....then they pretended brook was the only available last minute replacement and you suckers bought it

"forgot his pen".....i swear...you clowns will buy anything....golovkin, sanchez or loeffler could poop in their hands and youd be looking for a fork

[stealthradon]

lara was not contractually obligated to showtime...he fought on a fight by fight basis...he even made this extremely clear.....but because loeffler made the excuse "lara fights on showtime"....you suckers bought another one of his BS lies cause he knows fools like you yuck it up.....lara came out and made it clear he had no actual contract with showtime

"It's well known that Gennady Golovkin - when he fights in the United States - is under exclusive contract with HBO. Lara is with Golden Boy and fights on Showtime. So while he is a great fighter for whom we have a tremendous amount of respect, the bottom line is that HBO is our biggest strategic partner and it's up to his promoter to get him accepted by HBO"

how did khan fight on showtime and then go to an HBO fight with canelo? hmmm.....haymons guys arent contractually obligated to showtime and can go fight wherever if the right fight presents itself...did u hear loeffler say "lara is contractually obligated to showtime"? nope...cause he wasnt......but loeffler knew HBO wouldnt accept a lara fight because its not a stand in front of you make you look good fight for the guy they were trying to build as a KO machine

"eubank forgot his pen"...eubank didnt forget anything...thats the lamest thing ive ever heard "eubank forgot the pen"....when u dont get a signature from "plan A" by a certain point you move on to plan B.....its k2s fault for waiting so long with no signature....then they pretended brook was the only available last minute replacement and you suckers bought it

"forgot his pen".....i swear...you clowns will buy anything....golovkin, sanchez or loeffler could poop in their hands and youd be looking for a fork

"Unfortunately they (the Eubanks) made the deal impossible. The things they wanted were just a complete no-go. They were given a deadline and they chose not to take the fight."
The Eubanks declined to comment when contacted by Sky Sports.

Then why didn't Lara just move up? He could have become GGG's mandatory, right?
Why doesn't he fight Loma?

[Curt Henning]

"Unfortunately they (the Eubanks) made the deal impossible. The things they wanted were just a complete no-go. They were given a deadline and they chose not to take the fight."
The Eubanks declined to comment when contacted by Sky Sports.

Then why didn't Lara just move up? He could have become GGG's mandatory, right?
Why doesn't he fight Loma?

why didnt lara move up? cause GGG was the only fight at MW he wanted otherwise it wasnt worth moving up to him....its simple...you saw the quote from loeffler....loeffler had 0 interest in the fight

still think it was cause lara was contractually obligated to showtime or do you admit you used that excuse and it had no leg whatsoever?

the deadline the eubanks should have had should have been much sooner and if you cant see that you are blind....if eubank is plan A then when you cant get a signature from them by a certain point you move on to plan B(which should have been a MW).....instead they let it play out and play out and then when eubank didnt sign it became "well we had no choice...we had no time and options and brook was available"....wow how lucky huh? how luck is it that hearn just happened to have brook available when magically at the last minute eubank wouldnt sign?

was there no warning sign previously that eubank was being difficult? since they had no signature, say, the previous month even? wouldnt it have been time to move on and find another fight? ya probably would have....unless of course brook was your plan the whole time....why didnt loeffler even ask about degale? he didnt even ask...

[stealthradon]

why didnt lara move up? cause GGG was the only fight at MW he wanted otherwise it wasnt worth moving up to him....its simple...you saw the quote from loeffler....loeffler had 0 interest in the fight

still think it was cause lara was contractually obligated to showtime or do you admit you used that excuse and it had no leg whatsoever?

the deadline the eubanks should have had should have been much sooner and if you cant see that you are blind....if eubank is plan A then when you cant get a signature from them by a certain point you move on to plan B(which should have been a MW).....instead they let it play out and play out and then when eubank didnt sign it became "well we had no choice...we had no time and options and brook was available"....wow how lucky huh? how luck is it that hearn just happened to have brook available when magically at the last minute eubank wouldnt sign?

was there no warning sign previously that eubank was being difficult? since they had no signature, say, the previous month even? wouldnt it have been time to move on and find another fight? ya probably would have....unless of course brook was your plan the whole time....why didnt loeffler even ask about degale? he didnt even ask...

DeGale only wanted to fight if GGG moved up.

[Squ□redCircle34]

Everyone knows Ward would've absolutely packed GGG's lunch and take him to school!

Even GGG himself knew better!

You saw them bodyshots Canelo was landing?

Ward would've done that on a more relentless level and making it a in the trenches fight!

Ward made Kovalev put the bottle down for good and Ward would've made GGG shut Sanchez up and stand up to him like a got damn man!

[LetOutTheCage]

There are an awful lot of weird posters on here

[hugh grant]

Floyd dodging PAC was legendary.
But I didn't know GGG was scared of ward. I thought ward retired as he knew GGG would want him oneday