Comments Thread For: Guillermo Rigondeaux is Stripped of WBA World Title

[Combat Talk Radio]

never mind these ******ed fans,its expected..boxing is an unforgiving sport..one loss could mess up your whole legacy..its like all you've done is forgotten and they only remember you for your loss to raise their favorite fighter's profile up..these so called writers and idiotic fans

A very smart former fighter once said that it's how you recover from loss that defines you.

If you're like Duran, quitting against Sugar Ray and never really recovering to that level again...yes, you're defined by that loss.

If you're like Hamed, getting embarrassed by Barrera and not bothering to show up the next fight...yes, you're defined by that loss.

But if you're like Lennox Lewis, who avenged EVERY LOSS he had in clear, undisputed fashion....that's the hallmark of a real fighter.


Rigondeaux has now joined the Naseem Hamed school of boxing. Except that he quit where at least the Prince took his ass whooping like a man the full distance.

[j.razor]

I'm surprised it took the WBA so long to do this this guy disgraced himself and boxing in the manner in which he quit ...such a disgrace ...if I was a promoter I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole..

Not that he quit, the fact that he even didn't put any effort in the fight....

[MisanthropicNY]

What do you propose to replace them?

He's probably one of those "the Ring title is the real title" ******s.

With the Ring imaginary titles, we have vacant titles for years.

Until there is actually a unified boxing commission that administers one title per weight division and has rules for mandatories etc. It's going to be the status quo in boxing for a long, long time.

[Andre_parker1]

A very smart former fighter once said that it's how you recover from loss that defines you.

If you're like Duran, quitting against Sugar Ray and never really recovering to that level again...yes, you're defined by that loss.

If you're like Hamed, getting embarrassed by Barrera and not bothering to show up the next fight...yes, you're defined by that loss.

But if you're like Lennox Lewis, who avenged EVERY LOSS he had in clear, undisputed fashion....that's the hallmark of a real fighter.


Rigondeaux has now joined the Naseem Hamed school of boxing. Except that he quit where at least the Prince took his ass whooping like a man the full distance.

legacies aren't determined by only wins or losses..c'mon be wise..when talking about andre ward..an excellent fighter..you mean these boxing writers and ward haters won't mention the circumstance in which he won his fights specifically against sergey kovalev..they downplay his victory with the 'low blows' talk..kovalev was robbed in the first fight.. despite ward proving he was the better fighter..or mayweather not fighting pacquiao in his prime even when he fought him still..and beat him

[Combat Talk Radio]

legacies aren't determined by only wins or losses

Not determined. Shaped.

Nobody even remembered that Tyson was beautifully displaying the sweet science against a guy named Reggie Gross - easily his best overall in-ring performance as a fighter - yet nobody cared.

All people clearly remember of Tyson is the Bite Fight (DQ), him chilling in the corner on his ass against McBride (L), Robin Givens cucking him on live TV (L), him threatening jailhouse **** against some reporter and Douglas knocking him out (L).


The only guy who took losses that didn't seem to affect his, based on my fight memory, was Chris Eubank. But that's because of his entertainment value, his ring entrance, his music, etc. that overshadowed the down points. Thus why I say Hamed should have kept on going - the Barrera schooling wouldn't have affected him long if he showed up every other fight after.

[N/A]

I'm actually doing really good in life. Have a good job, a nice house and three cars. I have everything I need.

Those are all superficial things. Clearly you're unhappy inside or you wouldn't be so negative and hateful.

You should change your name to George cause you swing off Mauricio Suleiman's nutts like George of the jungle.

Why not debate our points like a civilized human instead of resorting to childish rantings?

That fat piece of shet don't give a **** about anything or anybody but fattening up his own pockets.

The Sulaiman family was independently wealthy before getting involved in boxing. You can criticize them for many things. Playing favorites. Being dictators. Etc. But their focus has never been fattening their pockets, which is why they're the only major organization that hasn't had a bribery scandal.

As far as him cleaning up boxing and all that bullshet well he's a ****ing joke just like you!

The WBC has a long history of being the innovators. Instituting major changes before anybody else, only for the rest of the industry to eventually follow. It's not just the clean boxing program. It's reducing fights from 15 rounds to 12. It's moving the weigh-in to the day before the fight. It's adding a fourth ring rope. The first organization to require drug testing at all. Insisting on thumb-attached gloves.

So many safety precautions that we now take for granted that were all created by the WBC. You don't know the Sulaimans at all if you question their sincere desire to improve boxing. The money has always been secondary to them. Probably because the father was already so wealthy and was just a huge boxing fan that wanted to be involved. The other organization presidents have used boxing to become rich. The Sulaimans were already rich. So the mindset of the WBC has always been different.

[Shadoww702]

WBA is the WORST!!! Damn shame

[Shadoww702]

If you're propsing the WBSS as a replacement for the sanctioning bodies, the WBSS would have to seriously increase their schedule.

We would propose tournaments in the original eight weight classes, alternating each year with four tournaments per year.

Even years: HEAVYWEIGHT, MIDDLEWEIGHT, LIGHTWEIGHT, BANTAMWEIGHT

Odd Years: LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT, WELTERWEIGHT, FEATHERWEIGHT, FLYWEIGHT


If the WBSS had top fighters in every tournament and crowned their own world champion in each division, it's possible over time the public would accept the eight WBSS champions as the true world champions of boxing. But WBSS would need a lot more money and would need a lot of lucky breaks to make any of this possible.

Give it a rest! Quit sucking these greedy bastards ****s.

[Shadoww702]

there should be one governing body, lineal champ in every division otherwise you'd have bums like Charles martin becoming champs..the best avoiding each other and taking easier routes to become champions.. why not have the organizations in one banner and make decisions like how a football (soccer) organisation is run collectively.. no fixed head only tenures.. introduce checks and balances to avoid corruption to some extent and everyone is happy..that's an alternative but ofcourse there's always going to be a loophole yet not as big as the one already existing.

Good post but that ****** *** is too ****** to understand that.

100% agree with you.

[Shadoww702]

The announcement to strip Rigo was made before the Lomo fight, so no surprise here. Rigondeaux’s career really is in question. He’s old and avoided. And now, with no belt, what does he have to offer? Wouldn’t surprise me if he quietly retired. A very unceremonious end to the career of a great boxer.

Yeah hes too good to even be a gatekeeper at his age. He's ***ed