What was the Better Win- Floyd-Marquez or Loma-Rigo?

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  • chrisJS
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    #41
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Marquez and Mayweather were more similar in weight., Than Loma-Rigo. OOOooops
    Nah. Marquez was at 126 when he was 33. Mayweather was at 147 and had even fought at 154 in his late 20s. One year before Loma-Rigo they were 1 weight and 4 lbs apart. 1 year before Marquez and Mayweather were 3 weights and 17 lbs apart. 2 yeas before they were even 28 lbs and 5 weights apart.

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      #42
      Floyd-Marquez was much better.

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        #43
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        Nah. Marquez was at 126 when he was 33. Mayweather was at 147 and had even fought at 154 in his late 20s. One year before Loma-Rigo they were 1 weight and 4 lbs apart. 1 year before Marquez and Mayweather were 3 weights and 17 lbs apart. 2 yeas before they were even 28 lbs and 5 weights apart.
        You were talking about "brutal weight" now you gone back to divisions? JMM was weighing mid 140s aswell as Pacquiao at 130, Mayweather weighs around 150. Rigo weighed 130 the day of the fight with his clothes on. Loma was 137.

        Fail.

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        • chrisJS
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          #44
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          You were talking about "brutal weight" now you gone back to divisions? JMM was weighing mid 140s aswell as Pacquiao at 130, Mayweather weighs around 150. Rigo weighed 130 the day of the fight with his clothes on. Loma was 137.

          Fail.
          Typo. Autocorrected from natural weight.

          Marquez was fighting featherweights at age 33 and only fought a larger man for the first time in 2008 and fought a Lightweight for the first time in 2009. That's more relevant than walk around weight. Acclimation to weight classes.
          Last edited by chrisJS; 12-31-2017, 03:46 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            Typo.

            Marquez was fighting featherweights at age 33 and only fought a larger man for the first time in 2008 and fought a Lightweight for the first time in 2009. That's more relevant than walk around weight. Acclimation to weight classes.
            What was a typo? Fight night weight is what i'm talking about. Lomachenko had a bigger advantage than Mayweather did. Who's talking about walk around weight?

            You're flip flopping like a fish out of water right now.

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            • chrisJS
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              #46
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              What was a typo? Fight night weight is what i'm talking about. Lomachenko had a bigger advantage than Mayweather did. Who's talking about walk around weight?

              You're flip flopping like a fish out of water right now.
              Don't know what Floyd weighed in fight night. Regardless Marquez weight wasn't built up due to the nature of his fast rise through the weight classes. He was fighting 12 lbs more than his last fight and 21 lbs from his natural weight which he weighed age 33. He was fighting a guy who was 12 lbs heavier than what he'd faced and had only fought on guy that weighed more than 130 at their natural weight classes.

              You don't think Marquez was at a disadvantage when the facts are
              He fought for the first time above 126 in March 2017 and then moved to 135 in September 2008 and for the first time fought a natural 135 pounder in February 2009? When Mayweather had been at Welterweight since 2005 and had even been at 154.

              Lomachenko and Rigo have never been 8 lbs apart and 8 lbs is less than 12 lbs. 8lbs out of 122 is also a smaller % in weight gain than 12 up to 147 and obviously considerably smaller than the weight gain of 126 to 147 or even 154. Marquez and Mayweather were separated by 4 or 5 weights not even long before they fought. Can't say the same on Loma-Rigo.

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              • Navalny20!8
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                #47
                Floyd's UD Marquez was a better win IMO.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  Don't know what Floyd weighed in fight night. Regardless Marquez weight wasn't built up due to the nature of his fast rise through the weight classes. He was fighting 12 lbs more than his last fight and 21 lbs from his natural weight which he weighed age 33. He was fighting a guy who was 12 lbs heavier than what he'd faced and had only fought on guy that weighed more than 130 at their natural weight classes.

                  You don't think Marquez was at a disadvantage when the facts are
                  He fought for the first time above 126 in March 2017 and then moved to 135 in September 2008 and for the first time fought a natural 135 pounder in February 2009? When Mayweather had been at Welterweight since 2005 and had even been at 154.

                  Lomachenko and Rigo have never been 8 lbs apart and 8 lbs is less than 12 lbs. 8lbs out of 122 is also a smaller % in weight gain than 12 up to 147 and obviously considerably smaller than the weight gain of 126 to 147 or even 154. Marquez and Mayweather were separated by 4 or 5 weights not even long before they fought. Can't say the same on Loma-Rigo.
                  In the ring the weight disparity was bigger Loma-Rigo. Cong**** JMM could dehydrate more than Mayweather to make a smaller weights i guess.

                  You can try and spin it all you like. Loma had a bigger advantage and was fighting a guy lower on the P4P list.

                  Mayweather win over JMM is better.

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                    #49
                    Even fighting a guy coming up 2 weight classes, Mayweather still had to game the system by not coming in at the agreed weight but instead choosing to pay for the advantage of fighting at a higher weight.
                    So Lomachenko's win is more impressive, not even counting the fact that he made Rigo quit while Marquez was able to go the distance.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      In the ring the weight disparity was bigger Loma-Rigo. Cong**** JMM could dehydrate more than Mayweather to make a smaller weights i guess.

                      You can try and spin it all you like. Loma had a bigger advantage and was fighting a guy lower on the P4P list.

                      Mayweather win over JMM is better.
                      How much did Floyd weigh in the ring against Marquez? Nobody knows. Anything you say is strictly theory.

                      Coming into the fight Mayweather-Marquez was considered a mismatch because of the weights. Lomachenko-Rigondeaux by many was considered a tough match to call and legions of fans picked Rigondeaux and this is all fact.

                      Like I said Marquez moved up more than did Rigo and had more disadvantages based on facts. Mayweather also cheated based on fact too.

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