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Lets Not Argue If Mayweather is A Coward Or Not! DID U WANT TO SEE HIM FACE MARGARITO

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  • #21
    Margarito would be blind by now instead of one-eyed.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      actually floyd chose sharmba instead of marg. was floyd guaranteed a hoya fight for fighting sharmba? lmao

      Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

      "Flat turned him down like you can not believe," Arum said of Mayweather when he was offered a chance at the WBO title. "Any time we raised his name, Mayweather went crazy." He's a ballsy guy but his people have told him that Margarito is the most dangerous guy for him out there."

      what you are referring to happened after the sharmba fight and if you paid attention you could see floyd was not serious because he demanded a 20 million guarantee for a hoya fight as part of the margarito negotiations....uhhh ok lets fast forward to when he actually fought hoya. he happily accepted only a 10 million guarantee so as you can see he was just pricing himself out and making ridiculous demands and yet arum still gets blamed. why dont you blame floyd? if hes willing to fight hoya for 10 a year later why did he ask for 20 when margs name came up?

      Oh, is that what Arum said after Floyd ditched his old ass and signed with Goosen Tutor? I bet he was real mad. Tell us more


      And I dare you to challenge that Floyd bouncing on Top Rank was a dumb decision.

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      • #23
        I would have liked to.
        I don't see why people thought he would have been a threat as he was slow and plodding, just the kind of guy Mayweather did best against. Still, Margs should have got the fight.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          Oh, is that what Arum said after Floyd ditched his old ass and signed with Goosen Tutor? I bet he was real mad. Tell us more


          And I dare you to challenge that Floyd bouncing on Top Rank was a dumb decision.
          floyd attempted to leave top rank cause they wanted him to fight margarito. he wanted to leave for less money....and did for the sharmba fight. i still cant believe you tried to use that as a pro floyd argument. pretending your weakness is a strength. a good debating tactic. i underestimated you and your love for floyd. most other people simply give up and admit defeat.

          was it dumb? its hard to say. he could have had more money if he took the better fights but then again he could have lost and been derailed. im sure hes happy with the money he made though so the easy fights paid off in the end.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
            I would have liked to.
            I don't see why people thought he would have been a threat as he was slow and plodding, just the kind of guy Mayweather did best against. Still, Margs should have got the fight.
            castillo and maidana weren't slow? margarito was much bigger and more determined than them, and he threw more punches from all angles. i really dont see how its an easy fight like floyd fans pretend. margarito was not plodding,he was able to track down pac who has much more explosive footwork than floyd. floyd was easily cornered by slow guys like canelo, maidana, and baldomir. he would be on the ropes all fight against marg. those other fights he was able to bail himself out with good defense but marg throws a ton of punches from all angles. its all wrong for floyd. floyd himself turned it down for less money so there was obviously something there he didn't like. you didnt see him turning down baldomir.
            Last edited by daggum; 12-31-2017, 01:19 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by daggum View Post
              floyd attempted to leave top rank cause they wanted him to fight margarito. he wanted to leave for less money....and did for the sharmba fight. i still cant believe you tried to use that as a pro floyd argument. pretending your weakness is a strength. a good debating tactic. i underestimated you and your love for floyd. most other people simply give up and admit defeat.

              was it dumb? its hard to say. he could have had more money if he took the better fights but then again he could have lost and been derailed. im sure hes happy with the money he made though so the easy fights paid off in the end.
              Isn't that the same excuse you had when he finally did leave Top Rank.

              I thought he left him to make $28million more than he would have made if he stayed.


              Try to understand, little guy. Break a contract and make more money, or stay under contract.

              He can't break his contract with Top Rank, sign a one fight deal with Goosen Tutor, and still fight Margarito under Goosen Tutor promotions For you to try to pretend he wanted to break his contract just to avoid Margarito is preposterous. HBO didn't even care for the Margarito fight at that time. More than likely HBO helped Mayweather get out of his contract because they wanted the fights that Arum was blocking, which came off lovely and lucratively after he was out of the picture. Stop believing what Arum feeds you, especially after he's butthurt and suing everyone because Floyd left. You should have learned your lesson about trusting Arum. The information is always out there.

              It's not rocket science.
              Last edited by travestyny; 12-31-2017, 01:27 AM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by daggum View Post
                actually floyd chose sharmba instead of marg. was floyd guaranteed a hoya fight for fighting sharmba? lmao

                Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

                "Flat turned him down like you can not believe," Arum said of Mayweather when he was offered a chance at the WBO title. "Any time we raised his name, Mayweather went crazy." He's a ballsy guy but his people have told him that Margarito is the most dangerous guy for him out there."

                what you are referring to happened after the sharmba fight and if you paid attention you could see floyd was not serious because he demanded a 20 million guarantee for a hoya fight as part of the margarito negotiations....uhhh ok lets fast forward to when he actually fought hoya. he happily accepted only a 10 million guarantee so as you can see he was just pricing himself out and making ridiculous demands and yet arum still gets blamed. why dont you blame floyd? if hes willing to fight hoya for 10 a year later why did he ask for 20 when margs name came up?
                Your lies don't add up to the truth.

                Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito
                Apr 25, 2006
                Dan Rafael
                ESPN Senior Writer
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                Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.

                According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.

                "I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."

                Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.

                "Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.

                "We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."

                With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.

                That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.

                The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.

                Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

                "We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

                Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

                The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

                Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

                Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

                "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

                Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

                Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

                The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

                Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

                "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

                Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.

                Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.

                But Arum is confident they will make the deal.

                "We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."

                Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.

                Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.

                "But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  Oh, is that what Arum said after Floyd ditched his old ass and signed with Goosen Tutor? I bet he was real mad. Tell us more


                  And I dare you to challenge that Floyd bouncing on Top Rank was a dumb decision.
                  He forgot Arum's own words, lmao. So I posted his words. Daggum won't have a serious reply after being reminded of this.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                    He forgot Arum's own words, lmao. So I posted his words. Daggum won't have a serious reply after being reminded of this.
                    He won't read anything you just posted. He's just going to pretend it doesn't exist!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                      Your lies don't add up to the truth.

                      Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito
                      Apr 25, 2006
                      just check the dates of these two things

                      11-10-2005

                      "Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

                      "Flat turned him down like you can not believe," Arum said of Mayweather when he was offered a chance at the WBO title. "Any time we raised his name, Mayweather went crazy."

                      Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito
                      Apr 25, 2006


                      as you can see one is from 2005 and the other from 2006. why are you bringing up a completely different thing? he fought sharmba in 2005 for 4 million instead of marg for 7. the 8 million was offered in 2006. please dont tell me you were that easily confused?

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