Why Floyd envies Lomachenko

[GhostofDempsey]

You don't think Floyd was exciting at the lower weight classes?


And not beefing with you at all, but what exactly is it that you find so classless about Mayweather yet you idolize Dempsey? He wasn't exactly the epitome of class. Far from it.

You still on Dempsey? Dempsey was a product of his era. Yet, he never trash talked an opponent. By the time he reached 30 years of age he matured into a better man. Whatever dirt that was written about him was written by his manager Kearns who he fired for ripping him off. Meanwhile, most of his colleagues and boxing insiders had nothing but good things to say about him, even his former opponents.

Contrast that with Floyd who even into his late thirties was acting a fool, abusing his wife and kids, his own security guard, harassing other fighters wives, spouting racist, sexist and ****phobic hatred. Not to mention his lack of respect towards opponents, women in general and the soort as a whole. We have modern media to base this upon, not just heresy from 90 years ago.

[travestyny]

I don't think Floyd envies Loma's talent per se (at least as it relates to his own career), but he definitely resents that there's a fighter being more talked about than his own (Tank Davis.) Loma would destroy Davis and Floyd knows it - Hell, he even admitted it. He said that he only wants Tank fighting Loma in a couple years at best because he's not ready for that work at the moment.

You might be spot on, but it doesn't necessarily have to be resentment. Could just be his defense mechanism kicking in. He was a defensive fighter, so it makes sense. He knows that everyone is going to be pushing for Tank to fight Loma. They are on the same path. Tank is too inexperienced now, but as time goes by, pressure for this to happen will intensify to the point that this could become a huge Mayweather style event. He wants that, but he knows he's going to have to deflect, hence what I mean about his defense mechanism kicking in, for as long as he can before he thinks Tank is primed to not get his ass kicked.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Why is it a loss, floyd didn't unify a title until his 36th fight, one of those unification titles was vacant and he had only fought for the WBC belt up until then, where is the loss, in comparison with the number of fights floyd is well behind in achievements

The loss is the second fight on his record lmao wtf are you talking about. We’re talking about the Salido loss. Mind your business son. Floyd don’t lose to journeyman




Originally Posted by Jimmy 23 View Post
Floyd Mayweather at 29 y.o.:
record 37-0-0
4 division champion, 5 belts
3 PPV fights
highest purse - 8 million (vs Baldomir)
Ring Magazine P4P #1 (at 28 y.o)
The Ring Magazine Titles - World Lightweight Title (2002-2004), World Welterweight Title (2006-)
The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (1998, 2007)

Lomachenko at 29 y.o:
record 10-1-0
2 division champion 2 belts
0 PPV fights
highest purse - 1.2 million
Ring Magazine P4P #3 (at 29 y.o)
The Ring Magazine Titles - 0
The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (2017)



floyd is well behind in achievements.
What achievements?
Lmaooooo loma will never catch floyd

[Shape up]

The loss is the second fight on his record lmao wtf are you talking about. We’re talking about the Salido loss. Mind your business son. Floyd don’t lose to journeyman




Originally Posted by Jimmy 23 View Post
Floyd Mayweather at 29 y.o.:
record 37-0-0
4 division champion, 5 belts
3 PPV fights
highest purse - 8 million (vs Baldomir)
Ring Magazine P4P #1 (at 28 y.o)
The Ring Magazine Titles - World Lightweight Title (2002-2004), World Welterweight Title (2006-)
The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (1998, 2007)

Lomachenko at 29 y.o:
record 10-1-0
2 division champion 2 belts
0 PPV fights
highest purse - 1.2 million
Ring Magazine P4P #3 (at 29 y.o)
The Ring Magazine Titles - 0
The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (2017)



floyd is well behind in achievements.
What achievements?
Lmaooooo loma will never catch floyd

Floyd fought an unknown fighter with 1 win, 1 loss in his second fight, where is the comparison with salido who has held multiple world titles, that's a cop out on your behalf

[HanzGruber]

Because the number of fights is the only level playing you can compare them on, they entered the pro ranks at different ages so where is the level playing field there, if you have floyd goggles on, please remove them

Lol says the guy with an avi from a Floyd fight 10 years ago. Number of fights comparison is dumb. How is that level playing field? Loma must be the greatest of all time then with that ******ed logic. Better than Ali and srr cause he had less fights

[ruedboy]

The loss is the second fight on his record lmao wtf are you talking about. We’re talking about the Salido loss. Mind your business son. Floyd don’t lose to journeyman




Originally Posted by Jimmy 23 View Post
Floyd Mayweather at 29 y.o.:
record 37-0-0
4 division champion, 5 belts
3 PPV fights
highest purse - 8 million (vs Baldomir)
Ring Magazine P4P #1 (at 28 y.o)
The Ring Magazine Titles - World Lightweight Title (2002-2004), World Welterweight Title (2006-)
The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (1998, 2007)

Lomachenko at 29 y.o:
record 10-1-0
2 division champion 2 belts
0 PPV fights
highest purse - 1.2 million
Ring Magazine P4P #3 (at 29 y.o)
The Ring Magazine Titles - 0
The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (2017)



floyd is well behind in achievements.
What achievements?
Lmaooooo loma will never catch floyd

In Floyd's second fight, he went 4 rounds with Reggie Sanders for a UD. Sanders record was 1-1 at the time. Reggie "The Assassin" finished with a career record of 12-47.
Seems like Lomachenko took a risk, I don't knock a fighter for that.
I understand Floyd playing it safe, but there ain't nothing special about that.

[Mukuro]

Floyd is an amazing fighter, but he is also the most insecure fighter I can think of. He probably is jealous of the attention and accolades that Loma is getting so quickly.

[travestyny]

You still on Dempsey? Dempsey was a product of his era. Yet, he never trash talked an opponent. By the time he reached 30 years of age he matured into a better man. Whatever dirt that was written about him was written by his manager Kearns who he fired for ripping him off. Meanwhile, most of his colleagues and boxing insiders had nothing but good things to say about him, even his former opponents.

Contrast that with Floyd who even into his late thirties was acting a fool, abusing his wife and kids, his own security guard, harassing other fighters wives, spouting racist, sexist and ****phobic hatred. Not to mention his lack of respect towards opponents, women in general and the soort as a whole. We have modern media to base this upon, not just heresy from 90 years ago.

I wasn't "on Dempsey." I was just asking why the big problem with you seems to be that Mayweahter is "classless" but you admire Dempsey. I think you've wrote a sensational piece to try to make Mayweather appear as nasty as you could. Kudos to that!

He had an altercation with the mother of one of his children. Happens all of the time. What is NOT normal is abusing a woman. Not sure how much he abused her, but how about Dempsey who broke his wife's jaw? No, this was not from his manager.

According to Herbert G. Goldman, former editor of Boxing Illustrated, In his autobiography, Jack wrote that he couldn’t understand why Maxine left him. The reason is that she was scared ****less of Dempsey because he dislocated her ****ing jaw.”

So you seem to have a double standard there, buddy. Or did you believe that she really tripped over a doorframe, and Dempsey had no idea why she left him and never came back after her being so clumbsy?

Racist, sexist and ****phobic hatred??? Dudeeeee!!!!

This f@g is still on my page. He's obsessed. LOL. Isn't there a Mayweather thread for you to jump in? Hurry, Floyd needs you to the rescue! LMAO!

The f@g can't help himself, he can't stay off my page, this is hilarious!!! Been a while since I had a stalker. Sad individual.

This f@g won't turn on his own visitor messages. He knows he's going to get swamped by all the posters he antagonizes each day. So he trolls my page looking for attention. Go find a lady-boy over there in "Asia" or wherever you are f@g. The more you post on my page the more everyone can see how pathetic you are coming back for more. LOL.

Wow, this **** is still at it. Still stalking my page like a jaded little girl. Hahaha! I guess there aren't enough Floyd threads to keep him busy. I really got inside your head huh? You can't help yourself, I'm living rent free inside that feeble little brain of yours. LMFAO!!!!

So yea, like I was saying, that's not too uncommon. Floyd is a product of his time, man. Isn't that what you said about Dempsey? Well in this time and age, it seems people might say things like that. If you doubt it, look up again.

As for racism, I'm sure Dempsey never said anything racist, though he was a product of his time. He just refused to face another black man in the ring since the last time a black man broke 3 of his ribs and was "awarded" with a controversial draw in a fight that most thought Dempsey lost. I'm not going to comment on the things people say he has said in the past. You're right that it's hearsay, so I'll leave that alone.

Lack of respect towards opponents? Dempsey LOADED HIS GLOVES! AND THIS CAME FROM THE MAN WHO WRAPPED HIS GLOVES, NOT HIS MANAGER.

But Jimmy Deforest explained how Dempsey had achieved such carnage in so short a time. In 1930 he told Joe Villa of the New York Evening Sun exactly how it happened. “When I handled Kid McCoy, I used to bandage his hands with a certain type of adhesive tape,” DeForest told Vila. “As soon as McCoy drew on the gloves, the tape hardened and, as a result, he was able to inflict unusual punishment. I wound Dempsey’s hands, which Willard inspected. The story that Dempsey wore aluminum pads over his knuckles is a lie. His bandages became hardened, no doubt, and that was why he cut Willard’s face to ribbons.”

Come on, man. Do you see my point? You go around railing and railing on Mayweather as if he beat on your mother or something. But the dude you worship was no saint, and if you're going to say that he's a product of the times, then extend the same deal to Mayweather. You talk about the dude like he was a vile serial killer, yet there are actual rumous about Jack Dempsey being "a professional rapist of ******* who would then be sent to brothels." I'm not saying that's true because I don't know, but come on dude. Your hate just seems odd when you admire Dempsey, you have to admit.

If you just dislike Mayweather's boxing style and you enjoyed Dempseys more, that's all good! I'm just wondering why all the extra?


Oh, and the era of trashtalking opponents in boxing was probably made most popular by the great Ali. Come on, man. Stop pretending you don't know this game just to fit your agenda. They are promoting the fight! For God's Sake, people seemed to enjoy McGregor out trashtalking Mayweather as much as the fight. It's dumb as ****, but that's the game. What would Tyson be without trashtalk???

[daggum]

remember floyd is very xenophobic(look it up floyd fans) he is very threatened by lomas success. its pure projection. he knows one of the main reasons for his success was due to his american status and how took advantage of it and had the easy path. heres this guy from another country earning everything he gets the hard way. it exposes something deep inside floyd and makes him sad so he lashes out.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

In Floyd's second fight, he went 4 rounds with Reggie Sanders for a UD. Sanders record was 1-1 at the time. Reggie "The Assassin" finished with a career record of 12-47.
Seems like Lomachenko took a risk, I don't knock a fighter for that.
I understand Floyd playing it safe, but there ain't nothing special about that.

But did he lose doe
Not Floyd fault loma stayed in the amateurs feasting on kids