Deontay Wilder: I'm Half Human, Half Hybrid. I'm The Best Everyone Else Is Average!

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  • N/A
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    #51
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    If you want to believe that Hayman could match the offer Hearn gave Martin, then more fool you.
    Match the offer? Haymon was the one that convinced Hearn to make the offer. You think Hearn just woke up one day and wanted to have to spend $6 million and sign away several of AJ's defenses? Haymon masterminded that entire deal. Nobody else on the planet would have been able to orchestrate that kind of score for Charles ****ing Martin.

    If Wilder didn't want to fight Povetkin, Haymon would have set up a fight with Martin, easy. And Haymon would have never agreed to sell the IBF belt unless he was supremely confident Wilder would retain the WBC against Povetkin.


    But you know that anyway. Your pride won't allow you to acknowledge it.
    This isn't about pride. This is about logic. Haymon is the puppet master. The belts go where he wants them to go. He wouldn't have sold the IBF title if he needed it for Wilder.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      Rankings are just people's opinions really.
      And the world's leading experts all had Stiverne #2 or #3 in the world when Wilder shut him out. So when Wilder haters try to rewrite history, we should point out the facts. The facts are that Wilder and AJ have both largely feasted on the same caliber of opponent. But Wilder actually fought a top guy while he was on top. AJ hasn't done that yet. He's about to in his next fight and we expect AJ to destroy Parker.

      But until he does, he hasn't actually beaten a top opponent. He gets a lot of credit for the Klitschko win because Klitschko is a big name. It's emotionally swaying. But logically, Klitschko was old, coming off a verrrrry long layoff, and on top of that, he was coming off a loss where he was convincingly defeated. And he struggled in his most recent win. So Klitschko was several years removed from looking like himself. He was understandably removed from the rankings after the loss and long layoff.


      But how many would claim Stiverne being the bigger test over Wlad?? Not one. Other than you of course. Haha
      We're not saying Stiverne was a bigger test. We're just saying that those claiming Wilder has never fought a top opponent are very hypocritical because Wilder has actually fought one. It's AJ that has yet to.

      The top four heavyweights in the world will be fighting each other in March. So a lot of this arguing is silly. People just like to hate on Wilder because they know he is AJ's biggest threat and they have to downplay Wilder's accomplishments to justify delaying the Wilder fight.

      If AJ beats Parker and Wilder beats Ortiz, it will be clearer than ever that AJ & Wilder are the two best fighters in the world. Hopefully they'll fight next after that.

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      • Kezzer
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        #53
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

        Wilder has faced a top 3 opponent before and dominated them. Joshua has never faced a top 3 opponent.

        TBRB had him #3 and had King Kong #2, even though when the fight was signed, the bookies favored Wilder. King Kong has been removed from the ratings due to the drug test failure, but many experts do consider King Kong #2. So Wilder should be applauded for being so anxious to fight him.
        Only a wilder fan could claim klitschko wasn't top3 lol.

        What experts have Ortiz top two in the world? I would expect most to have a selection of (in most likely order) Joshua, Fury, Parker and Wilder. Can't see how anyone else, other than if klitschko returns, would make top2 for any expert?

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        • Johnston
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          #54
          His I.Q. can't be any higher then 70

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            #55
            That's some alabama type edumecation. Half hybrid babay!!

            it's a new fraction

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            • NahMean
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              #56
              Originally posted by jmrf4435
              That's some alabama type edumecation. Half hybrid babay!!

              it's a new fraction
              That's mind bobbling... I'm flustrated

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                #57
                Originally posted by Kezzer
                Only a wilder fan could claim klitschko wasn't top3 lol.
                Well, it's an indisputable fact, so fandom has nothing to do with anything (we are not fans, this is our job).

                http://www.tbrb.org/2017/05/15/11-april-2017/


                What experts have Ortiz top two in the world?
                Ortiz was #2 until the drug test failure.

                http://www.tbrb.org/2017/10/17/10-october-2017/

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                • KillaCamNZ
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                  #58
                  He's probably half-werewolf. Comes out once every now and then, makes a whole bunch of noise, then disappears.

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                  • Kezzer
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Well, it's an indisputable fact, so fandom has nothing to do with anything (we are not fans, this is our job).

                    http://www.tbrb.org/2017/05/15/11-april-2017/




                    Ortiz was #2 until the drug test failure.

                    http://www.tbrb.org/2017/10/17/10-october-2017/
                    Well you’ve proven that they aren’t experts anyway , that’s enough for me. Hardly a fact. Not heard of that ranking list before but just looked at Feb last year:

                    Povetkin,Ortiz,Hammer are all laughable. Not included klistchko even top 10 (before his fight with Joshua) either.

                    Heavyweight
                    Champion: Open
                    1. Alexander Povetkin
                    2. Anthony Joshua
                    3. Luis Ortiz
                    4. Deontay Wilder
                    5. Joseph Parker
                    6. Kubrat Pulev
                    7. Carlos Takam
                    8. Andy Ruiz
                    9. Christian Hammer
                    10. Dillian Whyte

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                    • Zaroku
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                      #60
                      If I got mad, real mad and lit his half human azz up, would u be charged?

                      I needs to know... Simple mo ****in question.

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