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  • RedZmaja
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    #21
    Holm's boxing career has been massively overhyped. She never fought outside of USA, in fact she hardly ever fought outside of New Mexico. Ducked Cecilia Braekhus. She would never fight Katie Taylor even if she was still boxing.

    Also her boxing skills aren't that good even for female standards. In the UFC, she was completely schooled and outboxed by a muay thai fighter Valentina Shevchenko. Valentina countered her with right hand and Holly had absolutely no clue what to do and made absolutely no adjustments. Holm lost to another muay thai fighter with no ground game Germaine de Randamie. Holm also lost a round that was pretty much boxing-only to Bethe Correia who only started training MMA 5 years ago to lose weight and has no ground game. Despite this, Holm couldn't do anything against her and was very timid, only won due to a headkick and not because of boxing. Holm also arguably lost to Raquel Pennington who knocked her down and was getting the better of Holm in plenty of boxing exchanges.

    So even these UFC girls have Holm's boxing figured out. This new generation of women boxers like Katie Taylor would beat her easily. Holm only looked good against Ronda who charged at her. If her opponents don't want to engage her she doesn't know how to lead and she has no jab.

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    • yoshik
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      #22
      Originally posted by RedZmaja
      Holm's boxing career has been massively overhyped. She never fought outside of USA, in fact she hardly ever fought outside of New Mexico. Ducked Cecilia Braekhus. She would never fight Katie Taylor even if she was still boxing.

      Also her boxing skills aren't that good even for female standards. In the UFC, she was completely schooled and outboxed by a muay thai fighter Valentina Shevchenko. Valentina countered her with right hand and Holly had absolutely no clue what to do and made absolutely no adjustments. Holm lost to another muay thai fighter with no ground game Germaine de Randamie. Holm also lost a round that was pretty much boxing-only to Bethe Correia who only started training MMA 5 years ago to lose weight and has no ground game. Despite this, Holm couldn't do anything against her and was very timid, only won due to a headkick and not because of boxing. Holm also arguably lost to Raquel Pennington who knocked her down and was getting the better of Holm in plenty of boxing exchanges.

      So even these UFC girls have Holm's boxing figured out. This new generation of women boxers like Katie Taylor would beat her easily. Holm only looked good against Ronda who charged at her. If her opponents don't want to engage her she doesn't know how to lead and she has no jab.
      STFU you disrespectful POS. When did you fight last? What titles have you owned you fat ass?

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      • Boxfan83
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        #23
        Originally posted by RedZmaja
        Holm's boxing career has been massively overhyped. She never fought outside of USA, in fact she hardly ever fought outside of New Mexico. Ducked Cecilia Braekhus. She would never fight Katie Taylor even if she was still boxing.

        Also her boxing skills aren't that good even for female standards. In the UFC, she was completely schooled and outboxed by a muay thai fighter Valentina Shevchenko. Valentina countered her with right hand and Holly had absolutely no clue what to do and made absolutely no adjustments. Holm lost to another muay thai fighter with no ground game Germaine de Randamie. Holm also lost a round that was pretty much boxing-only to Bethe Correia who only started training MMA 5 years ago to lose weight and has no ground game. Despite this, Holm couldn't do anything against her and was very timid, only won due to a headkick and not because of boxing. Holm also arguably lost to Raquel Pennington who knocked her down and was getting the better of Holm in plenty of boxing exchanges.

        So even these UFC girls have Holm's boxing figured out. This new generation of women boxers like Katie Taylor would beat her easily. Holm only looked good against Ronda who charged at her. If her opponents don't want to engage her she doesn't know how to lead and she has no jab.
        U r so underestimating HH. U must be a bitter Ronda Rousey fan because Holly Holm is a beast. HH is tall, rangy, always in phenomenal shape, & has a ton of fight experience no matter how much u try to degrade it. Also with MMA gloves on HH has great pop, problem is her team has her fighting way to shy. HH has done very well putting punches together coming forward but it's just to rare. The only person that did out strike and make Holly look bad was Schevenko but again Team Holms game plan was all bad.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Boxfan83
          The only person that ...make Holly look bad was Schevenko
          Cupcake. She lost to Cupcake.

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            #25
            Originally posted by revelated
            Cupcake. She lost to Cupcake.
            Got caught late in a choke. It's not like she got schooled and she went out like a G. Besides Tate beat a boxer by being a wrestler, it's not like Tate ko'd her. Tomorrow cyborg is going to try to outbox HH, then after she gets impatient Cyborgs going to come forward and get stopped in 4.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxfan83
              Got caught late in a choke. It's not like she got schooled and she went out like a G.
              ....but she lost to Cupcake.

              I'm sorry but, Holly MF'n Holm losing clean to Miesha Tate is like....well...Floyd getting outboxed by Brandon Rios.

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              • RSBonos
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                #27
                Originally posted by RedZmaja
                Holm's boxing career has been massively overhyped. She never fought outside of USA, in fact she hardly ever fought outside of New Mexico. Ducked Cecilia Braekhus. She would never fight Katie Taylor even if she was still boxing.

                Also her boxing skills aren't that good even for female standards. In the UFC, she was completely schooled and outboxed by a muay thai fighter Valentina Shevchenko. Valentina countered her with right hand and Holly had absolutely no clue what to do and made absolutely no adjustments. Holm lost to another muay thai fighter with no ground game Germaine de Randamie. Holm also lost a round that was pretty much boxing-only to Bethe Correia who only started training MMA 5 years ago to lose weight and has no ground game. Despite this, Holm couldn't do anything against her and was very timid, only won due to a headkick and not because of boxing. Holm also arguably lost to Raquel Pennington who knocked her down and was getting the better of Holm in plenty of boxing exchanges.

                So even these UFC girls have Holm's boxing figured out. This new generation of women boxers like Katie Taylor would beat her easily. Holm only looked good against Ronda who charged at her. If her opponents don't want to engage her she doesn't know how to lead and she has no jab.
                This is spot on.

                She's been very underwhelming outside the Ronda destruction. and while i can understand playing it safe, doing so against Bethe Correia is a bad look, even if she knocked her out eventually.

                Never bet on Holm in MMA. She's been a bust unless you won the lottery against Ronda.

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                • Yaconcha
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                  #28
                  In my view, wrestling, submission holds etc has no role in contact sports. It should remain as it was during the days of world of sport (70s/80s), entertainment only.
                  A 10 stone man could choke a heavyweight,bend his arm or leg etc to get a submission or roll around on the floor having a cuddle. I do see there is an art with wrestling but it’s not fighting. It’s not fighting. It’s wrestling.
                  A fighter could be losing in a “stand up” aka a fight and be losing but if both men ended up on the floor he may be able to choke the other guy? Don’t work does it.
                  It’s not right, should be separate and separated quickly and I do believe a number of titles would be changing hands for the right reasons. And the former title holders can go with the wrestling.

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                  • Beercules
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    ....but she lost to Cupcake.

                    I'm sorry but, Holly MF'n Holm losing clean to Miesha Tate is like....well...Floyd getting outboxed by Brandon Rios.
                    Miesha Tate isn't a bad fighter dude.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Beercules
                      Miesha Tate isn't a bad fighter dude.
                      I didn't say she was, but she's B- level at best.

                      There's no excuse for Holm, who straight up embarrassed Rousey, to lose to Cupkake.

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