Comments Thread For: Hearn admits to overpaying Martin to secure IBF title for Joshua

[juggernaut666]

Even Whyte has been complaining he's not the mandatory. We got idiots claiming he is.

Yes , that would be a dead give away on any OTHER forum !

[Boksfan]

Windmill should stop running away and accept AJ fight already like Parker did, Parker has some balls and Wilder is just a chicken coward no balls pu$$y.

[yankees7448]

Can you give me the quote where Eddie Hearn demanded he fight Whyte ? No .. because like every other lying Wilder fan you made it up. You think just because Wilder said it its true .. come on Wilder produce that contract easy to prove with the paperwork.

And you guys are acting like everything Eddie Hearn is saying is true as well so don't play the victim. Call it what excuse you want to call it but the fact of the matter is that Hearn chose to have Joshua fight Joseph Parker next instead of Wilder despite the fact that Wilder is better known and a longer tenured champion. Despite those two factors I just mentioned Eddie Hearn pushed Wilder to try and take on Dillian Whyte to build up his name while the lesser known and less respect Joseph Parker was not asked to do a damned thing. And it isn't as if it was a question of choosing the easier negotiation because the Parker negotiations were quite contentious.

Wilder is just looking for a cash out fight. For the record Hearns last statement on the matter was he came up with a way of attaching Joshua as the next fight and Wilder still ducked.

As for Wilder ducking Whyte? First of all, what the **** has Whyte done to earn a title shot. Outside of lasting 7 rounds with Anthony Joshua what has he done to even earn a place in this conversation. Sorry. I don't think squeaking past a shot Derek Chisora and boring people to death against Helanius puts you in a position to demand anything. Secondly, Wilder signed to fight Luis Ortiz in November and decided to take care of the mandatory fight when the Ortiz fight was canceled shortly before the event. Now that Ortiz was cleared to fight again Wilder immediately jumped into negotiations with him and they are likely to fight in early March. Ortiz is universally regarded as a better fighter and bigger threat than Dillan Whyte. You don't duck someone by fighting someone whose a bigger threat.

[yankees7448]

You're saying Wilder should be paid more to fight Whyte, because Joshua paid Martin.

No I didn't. I don't think Wilder needs to fight Whyte whatsoever. He's a champion and has been for longer than Joshua. He doesn't need to fight someone else to earn a shot at another champion.

[yankees7448]

Well you can't be talking about Joshua-Wilder, because he's certain to get more than 6 mil. Parker is going to get 12.


Keep trying to spin, everyone knows what you meant.

Whyte was never a part of that equation dummy and he has done nothing to earn a spot in that equation. I don't give a **** how much Hearn claimed he offered Wilder to fight Whyte. Wilder doesn't need to go through Whyte to get to Joshua.

[yankees7448]

A statement on the WBC website read: "This fight will be a final elimination, a fact that adds an extra ingredient of motivation to excel, whatever the odds."

This was on November 3rd addressing the Molina fight.

Breazeale is the mandatory bc he was ORIGINALLY fighting Stiverne for that spot .

Really is this that complicated ?

Even if the WBC finds loop holes around it , theres nothing to suggest Breazeale is not the mandatory right now .

I wasn't commentating on what other things the WBC said. I am only commentating on the video and the video does not say Breazeale is the next mandatory challenger.

So no, it is not that complicated. Robbie Barrett provided proof for his position which I showed wasn't proof of anything.

[Kezzer]

Expect brazeale to fight whyte as a final eliminator either way. A lot of money on offer to do that, and if they can put it on the undercard of a wilderness Ortiz fight for example, or whoever else it can only be good thing for all involved. Wilder would have advantage of exposing his name better to uk audience for instance.

[JRB123]

Because putting Joshua on the contract is an unrealistic demand? You can't have a Joshua fight on the contract, until you've negotiated a Joshua fight and Wilder wants 50% for a Joshua fight. Pricing himself out.

Here is the issue I had with the whole thing.

Wilder knew that he had a mandatory obligation as he had not fulfilled that in two years up to the point where he fought Gerald Washington. He was healthy and ready to fight during the summer, and Stiverne had been the #1 contender since December 2016. They could have had the fight made and set for July, August, or September but nothing.

Then when the talks about a fight between Wilder and Whyte were brought up, the first thing said from Wilder was that he wanted 7 million dollars instead of the 3 million dollars offered. Now he is talking about up to 10 million dollars.

Leading into the end of September, the talk was that Wilder would face Ortiz...but then the whole thing with the blood pressure pills happened, and then for "some strange reason" the fight between Wilder and Stiverne was made...which Wilder got paid less money for than the 3 million proposed by Hearn.

Not only that, Wilder and his team have claimed that they have contacted Hearn about making a fight between him and Anthony Joshua but we have seen no proof of that other than the meeting that took place between November 4th and November 11th of this year.

For me, it is Wilder that is looking bad right now.

[Pennsauken1]

You over paid because you knew Martin was a tomatoe can and wanted to make your Diva look prettier with that IBF belt, you fraud!!!

[Pennsauken1]

And you guys are acting like everything Eddie Hearn is saying is true as well so don't play the victim. Call it what excuse you want to call it but the fact of the matter is that Hearn chose to have Joshua fight Joseph Parker next instead of Wilder despite the fact that Wilder is better known and a longer tenured champion. Despite those two factors I just mentioned Eddie Hearn pushed Wilder to try and take on Dillian Whyte to build up his name while the lesser known and less respect Joseph Parker was not asked to do a damned thing. And it isn't as if it was a question of choosing the easier negotiation because the Parker negotiations were quite contentious.

As for Wilder ducking Whyte? First of all, what the **** has Whyte done to earn a title shot. Outside of lasting 7 rounds with Anthony Joshua what has he done to even earn a place in this conversation. Sorry. I don't think squeaking past a shot Derek Chisora and boring people to death against Helanius puts you in a position to demand anything. Secondly, Wilder signed to fight Luis Ortiz in November and decided to take care of the mandatory fight when the Ortiz fight was canceled shortly before the event. Now that Ortiz was cleared to fight again Wilder immediately jumped into negotiations with him and they are likely to fight in early March. Ortiz is universally regarded as a better fighter and bigger threat than Dillan Whyte. You don't duck someone by fighting someone whose a bigger threat.

Very well said, if these dummies would just get it!