Comments Thread For: Hearn admits to overpaying Martin to secure IBF title for Joshua

[Robbie Barrett]

Why would Hearn bid against himself? If it's a $2 million fight, and if Wilder makes so little, why wasn't Hearn able to make the fight happen for $2 million? Is it possible you have absolutely no idea how the boxing industry works?




Frank would gladly pay $2 million for the fight because he'd make millions at that price. You're the one that claimed it's a $2 million fight. There are at least a dozen promoters that would gladly buy the fight at that price even though they had no vested interest in either side.




Nobody is pretending anything other than you pretending to have any knowledge or experience that would allow you to have any idea what a fight is worth.




Who would be the betting favorite, Whyte or King Kong? How can you duck someone when the fight you're taking instead is against someone the entire boxing world considers the tougher fight?

There was no bid you tard. Hearn was offering great money to entice Wilder. If Hearn couldn't get Wilder to fight for 3 mil plus US TV rights, how the **** was he supposed to make it for 2 mil?

Once again you're ignoring that fact that anyone else that bids for the fight won't be making money from Sky Sports PPV. That's where most of the money would come from. That's how Hearn can pay more than other promoters for that fight.

Yes you really are pathetic pretending 3 "insiders" are running that account. You clearly don't have a ****ing clue. Fooling nobody.

[redmish]

Wilder said he'd come to England for Whyte if Hearn agreed to his unrealistic ridiculous demand.


How much would he have wanted for a Joshua fight in the Whyte contract? 50%?

Price himself out of 2 fights with 1 demand.


There was no good reason to turn down the Whyte fight. It was almost triple the money he makes usually.


He avoided Whyte.

This. There's no reason to put AJ in the Whyte contract because if he beats Whyte in England Joshua would then have to fight him anyway. Wilder fighting Whyte would introduce him to the UK fans perfectly and if he won the fans would demand that Joshua fought him. Wilder didn't want the fight.

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There was no bid you tard.

If your position was solid, you wouldn't have to resort to name calling.

Hearn was offering great money to entice Wilder.

Great money in your uneducated, inexperienced, irrelevant opinion. The smartest, most experienced, most knowledgeable experts in the world disagree with you.

If Hearn couldn't get Wilder to fight for 3 mil plus US TV rights, how the **** was he supposed to make it for 2 mil?

You're the one claiming it's a $2 million fight. Not our fault your position doesn't make any sense.

Once again you're ignoring that fact that anyone else that bids for the fight won't be making money from Sky Sports PPV. That's where most of the money would come from. That's how Hearn can pay more than other promoters for that fight.

And what Hearn would be willing to pay to win the purse bid would put more money in Wilder's pocket than what Hearn was offering for a voluntary defense.

Yes you really are pathetic pretending 3 "insiders" are running that account. You clearly don't have a ****ing clue. Fooling nobody.

Nobody is pretending anything. If your argument had merit, you wouldn't be continuously trying to attack us personally. You're a fan who knows nothing. Enjoy the fights. This is how we make our living. Our perspective is going to be different. You're an AJ fan boy and that's great. You believe everything his promoter says. You're a loyal fan. We truly think that's awesome. This sport needs more people like you. We admire you.

But you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Bronx2245]

Ortiz was mandatory he was guaranteed a shot. He chose to take the fight with wilder that wouldn't make him 1/10 the money. Why would he do that? Because he liked his chances against Wilder more imo.

No actually it was because Hearn didn't want Ortiz to face AJ! He wanted that fight to "marinate," even though Ortiz was 37! He's with Haymon, and he's getting a shot! I notice Parker didn't have to fight Whyte first, or "look impressive" (Ortiz excuse), or any of that other BS! Why? Because Parker is trash!

[Robbie Barrett]

If your position was solid, you wouldn't have to resort to name calling.




Great money in your uneducated, inexperienced, irrelevant opinion. The smartest, most experienced, most knowledgeable experts in the world disagree with you.




You're the one claiming it's a $2 million fight. Not our fault your position doesn't make any sense.




And what Hearn would be willing to pay to win the purse bid would put more money in Wilder's pocket than what Hearn was offering for a voluntary defense.




Nobody is pretending anything. If your argument had merit, you wouldn't be continuously trying to attack us personally. You're a fan who knows nothing. Enjoy the fights. This is how we make our living. Our perspective is going to be different. You're an AJ fan boy and that's great. You believe everything his promoter says. You're a loyal fan. We truly think that's awesome. This sport needs more people like you. We admire you.

But you have no idea what you're talking about.

Great money to anyone with an ounce of common sense. 1.4 mil or 3 mil + US TV (at least 1 mil)

Not hard

Boxing "insiders" though

[Robbie Barrett]

No actually it was because Hearn didn't want Ortiz to face AJ! He wanted that fight to "marinate," even though Ortiz was 37! He's with Haymon, and he's getting a shot! I notice Parker didn't have to fight Whyte first, or "look impressive" (Ortiz excuse), or any of that other BS! Why? Because Parker is trash!

Ortiz was guaranteed a shot. It was ordered. What the **** are you talking about?

[N/A]

Great money to anyone with an ounce of common sense. 1.4 mil or 3 mil + US TV (at least 1 mil)

Anyone with an ounce of common sense would realize the purse filed with the commission for a main event A-side fighter is not an accurate reflection of his overall compensation package.

An artificially low number is filed to reduce taxes & sanctioning fees. This is standard procedure in boxing and has been for decades.

Further proof of how clueless you are of how this industry operates.

[Robbie Barrett]

Anyone with an ounce of common sense would realize the purse filed with the commission for a main event A-side fighter is not an accurate reflection of his overall compensation package.

An artificially low number is filed to reduce taxes & sanctioning fees. This is standard procedure in boxing and has been for decades.

Further proof of how clueless you are of how this industry operates.

You're talking about PPV guarantees and foreign fighters. Wilder is neither. No American is hiding money from the tax man. Try again.

Boxing "insiders" though

[Bronx2245]

Ortiz was guaranteed a shot. It was ordered. What the **** are you talking about?

And Pulev was AJ's IBF mandatory, so AJ chose to go with Pulev vice Ortiz! Once Ortiz failed his drug WBC drug test, the WBA stripped Ortiz of his mandatory spot for AJ! Luckily, Wilder had the balls to give the man a shot!

[N/A]

You're talking about PPV guarantees and foreign fighters.

False. It's standard procedure regardless of PPV of foreign fighters. Please stop acting like you have any knowledge of how this industry operates.

Wilder is neither. No American is hiding money from the tax man.

You're lying. Please stop acting like you have any knowledge of how this industry operates.

Boxing "insiders" though

We've never labeled ourselves "insiders." Which can have many meanings. We've been honest about the fact that we've worked in this industry for decades and have a better understanding than most here of how things operate. This is our job. You are a fan. You are guessing about how things work. We are not guessing.