Boxingscene Can Help Change Boxing

[McNulty]

Hello Sir

One of the biggest problems fans face in Boxing is officiating. If we had judges judging properly we can enjoy Boxing as it was meant to be enjoyed.

Ok McNulty, but how can Boxingscene get behind this movement?

Nobody talks about judges, how they score, personal preferences, how much they make, how they got involved in officiating, etc.

What if Boxingscene started interviewing judges as well as referee's?

I 110% believe if we can get them talking about how they score fights, we'll have them locked into their own words. Very valuable indeed!

For instance, I score based on how Jerry Roth used to score (when he wasn't retired). I score based on power first and move down the line with clean and effective punching, etc.

I think it would be very valuable to everyone if we knew how judges are scoring --- specifically.

Officials don't get much airplay anyway and Boxingscene could lead the charge in getting interesting and untapped content to it's readers.

Nobody is getting one-on-one interviews with judges or referee's. I want to know how much they make, how they got started, their motives, what fighters they like/dislike, how often they travel, how their job can be improved viewing wise, etc.

One article per week, some sort of spotlight segment would be awesome.

Lets band together and get something positive done or at least shine the light in a new direction.

Big Poppa, what do you think about diversifying Boxingscene's content O' so slightly?

For the rest of our readers here, lets get this thread poppin to initiate demand for something new.

[iamboxing]

Judges probably insulate themselves from crazy boxing fans and avoid the press like the plague. Plus, I bet they're boring as fuvk to talk to.

[juggernaut666]

This will never happen bc of conflict of interest should they be up to ref certain fights

Judges usually get picked to favor the promoters fighter so criteria is not all that important how they judge . The Lewis vs Holyfield fight is perfect example in a blatent Don King road block that had the fight ending in a draw .

Judges only show up for a pay check they arent hard core boxing fans , there job is too just sit and mark down who they think is winning . This is why half the scoring is terrible and usually at least 1 judge is way off .

Referees only make a few hundred , Anywhere from 5 to 6 is decent .

[USMCer]

Apply for the job at ABC Boxing:

http://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/2017_officials_registration.pdf

[boliodogs]

I don't think there are enough members to make any difference at all. I like to come here and talk boxing but I think the entire membership is like a drop of water in the ocean.

[redmish]

I think there should be 5 judges instead of 3, that way 1 poor judge wouldn't be so important and we would have a better chance of getting the right decisions.

[McNulty]

Judges probably insulate themselves from crazy boxing fans and avoid the press like the plague. Plus, I bet they're boring as fuvk to talk to.

I don't know about that. They might be boring, but thats up to the questions being asked and the personality asking the questions. I'm confident in my real life personality that could not only engage them as they needed to be engaged, but also make them feel comfortable enough to open up. If the subject is comfortable, the likelihood of them saying something ****** is much higher than when they have their defenses up.

Judges usually get picked to favor the promoters fighter so criteria is not all that important how they judge.

Judges only show up for a pay check they arent hard core boxing fans , there job is too just sit and mark down who they think is winning. This is why half the scoring is terrible and usually at least 1 judge is way off .

Referees only make a few hundred , Anywhere from 5 to 6 is decent .

Well, thats the rumor right? Lets get them talking and learn about their world. Maybe it's a thing, maybe it's not.

How do you know what judges are or are not? Do you know any in real life? Friends of friends perhaps? Like, how do you know if they're Boxing fans or not?

Ref's can make 50 bucks up tens of thousands and that's a fact.

Yes, they're all underpaid and that's why think they would respond to some limelight.

I don't think there are enough members to make any difference at all. I like to come here and talk boxing but I think the entire membership is like a drop of water in the ocean.

If you look at how other industries trend with similar behavior regarding effective vs ineffective complaint systems (EA/Disney/Reddit traingle most recently), I think if the fans raise enough ruckus we could see a positive result.

I'm not trying to rally nobody for nothing, some positive feedback wouldn't hurt (instead of haters hatin) so Big Poppa might consider covering a new topic. If Boxingscene can provide content nobody else is putting out, it could very easily gain traction in a multitude of ways. Think about it for a second.

In case you aren't aware, Boxingscene is the #1 Boxing media outlet out there. I've been part of many other communities throughout the years and nobody does it as big.

[juggernaut666]

I don't know about that. They might be boring, but thats up to the questions being asked and the personality asking the questions. I'm confident in my real life personality that could not only engage them as they needed to be engaged, but also make them feel comfortable enough to open up. If the subject is comfortable, the likelihood of them saying something ****** is much higher than when they have their defenses up.



Well, thats the rumor right? Lets get them talking and learn about their world. Maybe it's a thing, maybe it's not.

How do you know what judges are or are not? Do you know any in real life? Friends of friends perhaps? Like, how do you know if they're Boxing fans or not?

Ref's can make 50 bucks up tens of thousands and that's a fact.

Yes, they're all underpaid and that's why think they would respond to some limelight.



If you look at how other industries trend with similar behavior regarding effective vs ineffective complaint systems (EA/Disney/Reddit traingle most recently), I think if the fans raise enough ruckus we could see a positive result.

I'm not trying to rally nobody for nothing, some positive feedback wouldn't hurt (instead of haters hatin) so Big Poppa might consider covering a new topic. If Boxingscene can provide content nobody else is putting out, it could very easily gain traction in a multitude of ways. Think about it for a second.

In case you aren't aware, Boxingscene is the #1 Boxing media outlet out there. I've been part of many other communities throughout the years and nobody does it as big.

Refs only make a few hundred ,Mercante was paid 7 Hundred for the Lewis vs Holyfield fight . . I worked with Mercante Jr . he explained all this , maybe its more now but i dont see them getting HUNDREDS of thousands ,that doesnt sound right.

Judges are usually hired as favors or to get an edge if its a close fight which is why ALMOST always the home fighter gets the decision .

At the end of the day most judges are not going to want to be in the spot light and reviewed on why they give a certain fighter the win mainly bc it could shed light on other fights they screwed up in or dont want to be judged themselves if they intentionally feel the need to alter scoring (this happens )


The boxing commission actually screwed up the UFC scoring bc it made them LEGALLY tied to use boxing judges to regulate it . And they are clueless . UFC used to have actual martial artists who understood the sport as the judges bf boxing interfered in that area .

Most boxing judges dont have to understand the sport ,they are just looking at two guys trying to hit eachother ,you almost always have one judge who gets it wrong , sometimes 2 but its too frequent and thats bc they dont care enough about it or they already are discretely told to HELP out this or that fighter with a pencil .

[A.K]

Apply for the job at ABC Boxing:

http://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/2017_officials_registration.pdf

They’re talking about reffing a bunch of amatuer fights for free who has time for all that

[SN!PER]

Job mainly involves bringing Steve Weisfeld coffee and donuts.

If he likes you, he might let you actually judge a real fight after six months.