When was the last time the P4P lists were so weak?

[Motorcity Cobra]

You had Gonzalez and Ward on the list then. They weren't strong then, but they've got weaker. Who have they been replaced with? Spence and Inoue?

I don't think Spence deserves to be on that list but Inoue is the real deal. Usyk deserves to be on that list to. I've seen to many lists without him on it.

[Robbie Barrett]

I don't think Spence deserves to be on that list but Inoue is the real deal. Usyk deserves to be on that list to. I've seen to many lists without him on it.

The point is the list is just full of potentials, nobody that has actually done anything amazing/great. In the past there was always a few first ballot HOF fighters. There's none now.

[Robbie Barrett]

You are lying. Look at ALL your posts! They are ALL to do with with race you obese big lipped lazy niigger suck your 50 cent lookalike Mum. Puussyy.

What a ****ing idiot..........

[Motorcity Cobra]

The point is the list is just full of potentials, nobody that has actually done anything amazing/great. In the past there was always a few first ballot HOF fighters. There's none now.

Oh ok. True but the greats have retired. Look at this same list in 2 years and you'll see it a lot different. You have to give them time to do great things. Boxing is in that transitional period right now.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Yeah, it's why I never take the claims like "Oh, he's beaten more champions than anyone" or "he's won more belts than anyone" or "he's won titles in X amount of divisions" when in reality for the last 20 years or so there's been 4 belts (plus super champions) so it's possible at one time there's 85 world champions at one time comparing to even the early 80's where there was 12 divisions and 2 champions so a max of 24 or in era's even prior of 8 divisions 1 champion.

Mayweather fan logic is that Broner is better than Hagler and Danny Garcia is better than Sal Sanchez. In reality being the majority title holder (2 titles of the 3 in the late 90's early 00's or 3 of the 4 titles today) in one division can and often is more impressive than going the 1 title in 3 or 4 division route (due to watered down opposition).

Too many titles and divisions has really watered the sport down. It's a real shame.

And I'm with you. You can talk day long about beating belt holders but these days nearly every half-ass has held one belt at least. Not a good measuring stick.